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Offline Tilt

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« on: June 04, 2004, 04:48:21 AM »
With the new combat trim settings in place the La's seem to fly rock solid with none of the left wing down "torque" effect of previous betas.

Infact there was no torque effect with combat trim off....... (in flight)


Actually all Lavochkins pulled to the right........... I dont know how much HTC would like to model torque.

Lavochkins also had a nasty bounce on landing (which could be a fun feature)


To my cost :)  I found that control authority at the bottom of loops, low yoyo's or slow dives etc is less than before (ability to pull nose up is reduced) when in combat trim.


Could this be a function of the updated combat trim setting or have other settings been adjusted?

Last night I was basically switching combat trim off and the setting on my rotary clicked in (eventually) to over come this as I wanted nose up.
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« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2004, 12:01:53 PM »
Only thing that changed was that the CT table was redone.  I agree about the bounciness in the landing gear.  I've always wanted to make that thing really bouncy but haven't figured out some workable settings for it.

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« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2004, 01:26:45 PM »
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Originally posted by Pyro
Only thing that changed was that the CT table was redone.  I agree about the bounciness in the landing gear.  I've always wanted to make that thing really bouncy but haven't figured out some workable settings for it.


I hope you find a way.....of course then you would have to add the equally infamous Spitfire bounce............

The following may help with respect to the lavochkin characturistic.........

Its with respect to the La5FN.........which had shorter gear than the La7 but the same shocks........

It was recounted by the Czech pilot Ladislav Valousek who flew Spit V's for the RAF and then went on to fly La5FN's for the VVS during the Czech uprising of  44........

"It (La5FN) displayed some capriciousnesswhen landing; on touching down it tended to bounce. Our Soviet instructors told us to disregard this tendancy, but we found it very disconcerting none the less. A lot of Spitfire routine must have remained in our subconsciousness for we immediately gave her a little power and eased back on the stick - a cardinal mistake insofar as the Lavochkin was concerned."

I think the clue as to why it would have been a cardinal mistake would be seen in a comparison of the  the proper landing speed s of the two planes and the point of stall (on the La).  Plus the Spit bounce ( or its correction........as shown at a recent air display) seemed to cause the nose to lift and the rear wheel to bounce as well. If you were to look at the AoA should the La  achieve a rear wheel bounce with its main gear off the ground.............
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« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2004, 07:24:17 PM »
corection , there vas Slovak uprising and those la 5 fn was on Tri Duby  and true all storyies about those planes say it was a nasty bouncing on landing  , another story   1 ofthose la FN was chased be   usaf  p 51 ,,,  hard to tell model cose seen only ditched plane foto  looks like D with  B type  copkit and yelow tail, the chase endet bad for the pony  who refused to acept not everythin that fly above Slavakia is 190 :-)