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Offline Murdr

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« on: June 07, 2004, 07:06:21 PM »
Was watching the History Channels show on the warthog.  Good show.  The footage of Gulf War A-10s that made it back with huge amounts of damage were quite impressive.
 
The thing that really surprised me was that there were only 721 of them made, and only 367 in active service.  I had no idea.

I live 12 miles from the 'impact area' range that serves all A-10s from the eastern seaboard.   I see pairs of them practically every day.  They fly over in combat spread on the way in, and close formation on the way out.  The 30mm vulcan cannon impacts can be heard from over 20 miles away depending on the terrain.  
When I was a mortar gunner years ago, I used to get a front row seat on the attack runs.  Basicly the live fire ranges were shut down for about 90 mins when the A-10s were scheduled.  Often they would start their dives partially inverted for a good view of the target.  Even at the edge of the impact area it is very hard to hear the actual report of the gun because the impacts are 10 times as loud.  It sounds like a hyperactive jake brake.  Even with the 12 miles and 800 ft mountain between the impact area and my house I can hear when they are at "the Gap" (Ft Indiantown Gap) if the tv isnt turned up too loud.  

Anyway, now that I know how few of them there really are, the next time they fly over, I can appriciate how lucky I am to see them in action.

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« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2004, 07:22:42 PM »
Driving past the "boneyard" at Davis-Monthan AFB in Tucson I have seen the number of hogs stored there dwindle noticably. There are definately fewer there now than a couple years ago. I can't believe the AF is STILL considering scrapping them since they have nothing that can do the close air job as well as the hog can.
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« Reply #2 on: June 07, 2004, 08:47:33 PM »
What was really weird was at the WWII Weekend last weekend. They had a P-51D racing a Warthog, the 51 kept up easily. I have to dig out the picture I took of it.

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« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2004, 08:52:33 PM »
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What was really weird was at the WWII Weekend last weekend. They had a P-51D racing a Warthog, the 51 kept up easily. I have to dig out the picture I took of it.


     The A-10's top speed is right in the 51's neighborhood.
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« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2004, 09:06:32 PM »
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The A-10's top speed is right in the 51's neighborhood.
Seem that any propeller fighter(WWII) can shot down A-10  :p
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« Reply #5 on: June 07, 2004, 09:18:14 PM »
No, they can SHOOT it, but don't assume they can shoot it DOWN.  :D

Those babies are armored something fierce.
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« Reply #6 on: June 07, 2004, 09:26:48 PM »
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No, they can SHOOT it, but don't assume they can shoot it DOWN.  :D

Those babies are armored something fierce.
Blah!  I betcha if one the 50 cal machine guns hit the A-10 engine and blow up! :D :p
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« Reply #7 on: June 07, 2004, 09:55:38 PM »
I wonder if any thought was given to turning them over to the Army? Ground support would be right up their alley? Yes?

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« Reply #8 on: June 07, 2004, 09:56:10 PM »
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What was really weird was at the WWII Weekend last weekend. They had a P-51D racing a Warthog, the 51 kept up easily. I have to dig out the picture I took of it.


I was there :)

must have been too busy gawking at the P38 to see that race, lol.
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« Reply #9 on: June 07, 2004, 10:11:18 PM »
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I wonder if any thought was given to turning them over to the Army? Ground support would be right up their alley? Yes?

The Army has turned down the idea many times.  They would rather have rotory wing gunships that dont require a hardtop airfield.

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« Reply #10 on: June 07, 2004, 11:01:45 PM »
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The Army has turned down the idea many times.  They would rather have rotory wing gunships that dont require a hardtop airfield.
They need F-51D back and they did really good job in Korean War for Ground Supporter like US Navy/Marines F4U Corsair.
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« Reply #11 on: June 07, 2004, 11:33:09 PM »
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The Army has turned down the idea many times. They would rather have rotory wing gunships that dont require a hardtop airfield.


They should rethink that one. Helo don't seem to be holding up well in defended areas. Would think you need something like the A-10 to soften up the area first.

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« Reply #12 on: June 07, 2004, 11:38:42 PM »
A-10s have taken shells of calibers much larger than .50 to the turbofans and still made it back.  On the other hand, put a rifle round in the radiator of the P-51D and see if it comes back.
There's no point in having a CAS plane be too much of a fast mover, unless you've got the latest in sensor-fuzed munitions and stuff.

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« Reply #13 on: June 07, 2004, 11:45:55 PM »
Well, the 111th Fighter Wing at Willow Grove NAS manages to get at least four up each weekend in formation.   During the week it's just two ship flights.  

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« Reply #14 on: June 07, 2004, 11:46:41 PM »
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A-10s have taken shells of calibers much larger than .50 to the turbofans and still made it back.  On the other hand, put a rifle round in the radiator of the P-51D and see if it comes back.
There's no point in having a CAS plane be too much of a fast mover, unless you've got the latest in sensor-fuzed munitions and stuff.
That's true about what you said about A-10 and F-51, but A-10 seem too dangerous than F-51 and one of engineers said that If .22 bullet hit the engine, it would blow up and probably the pilot would never get chance to bailed out(Said on History Channel).
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