P-38 problems?

[Killjoy2]

1) On my FE the P-38 now rotates left from the torque.  It doesn't do this in AH1.  What happened to counter rotating props?  I checked each engine separately to see if they are turning in the right direction and they are, but it still pulls to the left.  Not just a little, but enought to really make a difference.

2) 1 degree of flaps seems to unbalance the flight dynamics substanitally.  This is also significantly different from AH1.  This problem may be related to item #1.  It acts like one fo the engines is not putting out full power in AH1.  It gets real unstable.

Since I have only my FE with which to judge, I hoping we can get a report from some others.  

I have calibrated my joystick to make sure I'm at zero.

[zmeg]

Was that on the map with the 10mph wind?

[Delirium]

The P38 does have a large amount of torque now, only diminished when you throttle down.

It flops around like a fish at low speed in a turn as well, no matter how much flaps you use.

[BUG_EAF322]

the p38 is seems porked indeed especialy the nose up on dives

[Killjoy2]

I guess one other observation on the New P-38.  It doesn't compress anything like AH1.

[TalonX]

Counter-rotating props would negate torque.  I am not sure checking the graphics for "rotation" means the torque is properly modelled.

[Pyro]

Originally posted by Killjoy2
1) On my FE the P-38 now rotates left from the torque.  It doesn't do this in AH1.  What happened to counter rotating props?  I checked each engine separately to see if they are turning in the right direction and they are, but it still pulls to the left.  Not just a little, but enought to really make a difference.

 

Describe the situation you are talking about here.

[Killjoy2]

It pulls left on takeoff and requires significantly more rudder to pull straight.  

It pulled left so much that I re-calibrated my joystick to see if that was the problem.

Next I started one engine and gunned it to check for torque effects.  Each engine pushed the opposite way.  But it still pulls left on takeoff.  However, it straightens out at speed like a P-51 might.

 The P-38 is behaving badly at low speeds during combat.  Perhaps this torque effect at takeoff (low speed) is apparent in low speed combat, thus causing the flip-flop effects we experience.

Thanks

[straffo]

Is there normal that reducing rpm in the 38 reduce manifold too ?

Or is it a mapping problem on my end ?

[Pyro]

Originally posted by Killjoy2
It pulls left on takeoff and requires significantly more rudder to pull straight.  

It pulled left so much that I re-calibrated my joystick to see if that was the problem.

Next I started one engine and gunned it to check for torque effects.  Each engine pushed the opposite way.  But it still pulls left on takeoff.  However, it straightens out at speed like a P-51 might.

 The P-38 is behaving badly at low speeds during combat.  Perhaps this torque effect at takeoff (low speed) is apparent in low speed combat, thus causing the flip-flop effects we experience.

Thanks

I can't duplicate that.  You sure you don't have an inadvertant rudder input?  Also, are you using manual trim or combat trim?  If you're using manual triim, you need to be certain that they are centered.

Straffo, the effect is correct.  Whether the scale of that effect is correct, I'll have to take a look at.  But you can't run high MP, low RPM.

[TheCage]

Pyro I now have the same problem only mine pulls to the right.   The slip indicator will peg itself to the right at 1500 RPMs and takes about 1/2 rudder travel to over come it.   It dosent slowly move but just jumps and peggs out.  Once airspeed gets to a point that a tail draggers tail would start to rise it straightens out.   I have a screen shot of it if you would like to see it.

[Killjoy2]

Just recalibrated and tried it again and now it pulls to the right on takeoff.

I tried low speed turns with flaps and while a little dicey, not too bad unless you jerk it around.  I lost control of it at one point and augered in.  It just mushed back and forth nose down going 200+.  I dropped 2000 feet without getting control back.  This wasn't a snap roll or a flat spin.  I was heading down at 200+ without being able to control it.  No Combat Trim.  I did have rudder control.

On the other hand, the Hammerhead is nice.  I also tried the P-38 trick of reducing power to the inside engine during a turn and that manuever worked better than any flight sim yet.

Hope we get this sorted out.

[straffo]

Originally posted by Pyro
I can't duplicate that.  You sure you don't have an inadvertant rudder input?  Also, are you using manual trim or combat trim?  If you're using manual triim, you need to be certain that they are centered.

Straffo, the effect is correct.  Whether the scale of that effect is correct, I'll have to take a look at.  But you can't run high MP, low RPM.

Thanks, I need to check tonight but it seems (from my bad memory) that the Typhoon can be used with high MP and low RPM Perhaps it is normal.

Another question
In the Typhoon  the GPH decrease when climbing to have the minimun at about 10K then it increase again from 10 to about 12 to stay stable until 17K when it start again to decrease.

Also I've seen between 10 and 12K a spike in the GPH (I'm not sure I need to test further perhaps I did engage WEP by error)

[hitech]

killjoy, was it online or offline? Make sure to check the winds.

HiTech

[Eagler]

tested this am

offline - had slight left pull until I calibrated, then straight as an arrow