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Offline Sp4de

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« on: June 08, 2004, 11:10:10 PM »
I think that Ah2 should have a P-61.  Its been one of my favorite planes for a long time. And i would enjoy flying it. Anyone else have some thoughts on this topic?




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Offline BigB717

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« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2004, 11:15:40 PM »
i think it would be an awsome plane to fly but i dont think that the MA would realy have a need for it. There are other planes that do the job.

i would however like to see it there if htc would bring it .. why not?;)
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« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2004, 11:21:35 PM »
Yeah.. i guess so. Everyone wants the B-29 and other types of planes. I just think the P-61 would be cool to see. I have never seen a P-61 in a game...
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Offline jay1988

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« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2004, 11:42:34 PM »
Why cant we just get all the planes of WW2:confused:
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« Reply #4 on: June 08, 2004, 11:56:15 PM »
P-61 would pretty much be useless in the MA as airborne radar isn't in the game.  As a daylight ground attack plane, there are other planes that will perform that job just as well that are already in the plane set.

It will also be a sitting duck to fighters as it's not all that manueverable and IIRC, most of the guns on the P-61 were locked in place so there wasn't all that much defensive fire power that other light bombers/attack planes had.



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« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2004, 12:27:42 AM »
Right, it's ability to be a night-fighter with radar sneaking up on Japanese Betty's is pretty much precluded in a game where there is no night and everyone has radar (but what if the P-61 retained its shipboard radar even if HQ was down and still patrolled for those bomber formations ? hmmmmm.......).
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« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2004, 01:42:14 AM »
Mosquito NF.Mk XIX or NF.30 would be easier to do, have better performance and still have the onboard radar if HTC wanted to do something with it.
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« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2004, 03:15:08 AM »
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Mosquito NF.Mk XIX or NF.30 would be easier to do, have better performance and still have the onboard radar if HTC wanted to do something with it.


same with the night version of the P-38, it performed better than the P-61 just without all the extra fire power.



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« Reply #8 on: June 09, 2004, 09:16:33 AM »
A20 does fine P61 would do better - one word  Cannons..  All AH planes have in plane radar.  MA is a silly fantasy world anyway -61 is a cool plane and hell some might sign up just to fly it.
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« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2004, 09:32:20 AM »
"P-61 would pretty much be useless in the MA as airborne radar isn't in the game."


 lol. you're kidding right? Every plane in the MA has inflight AWACS radar installed.  That with the standard issue ICONS would pretty much relegate the P-61 to being a big, fat target.

I'd love to see a P-61 added. But not out of it's real life element - use of the night, stealth and radar to stalk prey that did not have those advantages.
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« Reply #10 on: June 09, 2004, 09:58:23 AM »
Add 100 mph to top speed, 20,000 feet to service ceiling, and 4 more guns (20mm cannons) to the a20 and you have a P-61 "target".  Also carries 2,000 more pounds of bombs, but sounds like a hunter to me.

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A20-G SPECIFICATIONS

Span: 61 ft. 4 in.
Length: 48 ft. 0 in.
Height: 17 ft. 7 in.
Weight: 26,580 lbs. gross weight
Armament: 4 fixed, forward firing .50-cal. machine guns in the nose, two fixed .50-cal. machine guns in the lower forward fuselage, two .50-cal. machine guns in a dorsal turret, and one .50-cal. machine gun in a ventral position  (don't forget superfly!!) plus provisions for 4,000 lbs of bombs (2,000 lbs. internal & 2,000 lbs. external)
Engines: Two Wright R-2600-23 "Cyclone" supercharged radials of 1,600 hp. ea.


PERFORMANCE
Maximum speed: 317 mph.
Cruising speed: 230 mph
Combat Range: 1025 miles
Maximum Range: 2100 miles
Service Ceiling: 25,000 ft.

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P-61 SPECIFICATIONS

Span: 66 ft.
Length: 49 ft. 7 in.
Height: 14 ft. 8 in.
Weight: 35,855 lbs. loaded
Armament: Four .50-cal. machine guns in upper turret and four 20mm cannons in belly; 6,400 lbs. of bombs
Engines: Two Pratt & Whitney R-2800s of 2,100 hp. ea.
Cost: $170,000
Serial number: 43-8353
Displayed as: 42-39368 (P-61B)

PERFORMANCE
Maximum speed: 425 mph
Cruising speed: 275 mph
Range: 1,200 miles
Service Ceiling: 46,200 ft.
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« Reply #11 on: June 09, 2004, 10:05:05 AM »
I assume a big part of radar cons for aircraft in game is a presupposed ability for HQ to "vector" you toward enemy cons. What I was suggesting is that the P-61 keeps its radar ability for the circle it is flying in (equivalent maybe to base radar circle size) even if HQ is bombed and radar is down (grin).

Those 20mm's and ability to stay aloft much longer than Mossy or P-38 would probably tilt in the P-61's favor for those long, bomber formation intercept missions...
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« Reply #12 on: June 09, 2004, 10:24:28 AM »
OH GREAT...

Thanks a lot zanth... now i am salivating...
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« Reply #13 on: June 09, 2004, 12:19:44 PM »
We need more Japanese, Soviet, and Italian planes before any late war US stuff. Heck, we need the early P-38's and the P-39 variants before the P-61.
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« Reply #14 on: June 09, 2004, 12:24:07 PM »
"we need the early .... P-39 variants..."


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lol. I'm going to email that to Deadduck ;)
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