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Offline ghostdancer

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« on: June 09, 2004, 10:41:37 AM »
Okay starting to make the change over to AH2 and learning the ins and outs of it and adjusting to how things are different.

One of the things really throwing me for a loop is the enemy range counters counting off by increments of 500 at distance, etc.  I will say that I really dislike this and prefer the AH1 system but will leave it to just this one sentence.

Does anybody else have advice or tips and tricks for adjusting to this new system, judging closure and closure rates, etc.  Just advice on trying to readjust my thinking or flying habits or how you have done so to make up for this change in the game.

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« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2004, 10:58:19 AM »
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increments of 500 at distance, etc.  

Did they change this? :confused:  It was increments of 200 before.

It takes a few hours to get used to it but your "internal" timing for moves should be the same...  In a few days you will not even notice it.  Just got to teach yourself to really look at the aircraft and not the icon.  It will help with gunnery accuracy as well.

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« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2004, 11:09:53 AM »
Maybe if I have not been watching it as closely but seemed to me like it skipped from 1.5 to 1 last night. Will check it out tonight.

But I would really prefer say skipping by 100 yards all the way out or the old AH1 system. But enough of that.

Thanks for the note that you will adjust to it after a bit. My gunnery and hit rate has gone to hell because by the time I am opening up (tend to fire in closer) they are closer than I think and I have smaller window for my firing angle than I think I have.
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« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2004, 11:11:07 AM »
It is 500 from 1k  out to 6k.  Inside of 1k it is 200.

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« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2004, 11:15:54 AM »
yeah, that 500yd jump after 1k makes things difficult as the plane itself doesn't really change size.

I'd like to see 200 yds up to 2k out then 500+ after that.
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« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2004, 11:16:10 AM »
Ah .. thanks. Wish it was 100 at all ranges.

Guess I have to work on switching the way I think and interpret things while flying.

Either that or mount 40mm cannons on the plane so one hit is one kill. :)
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« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2004, 12:40:15 PM »
when you get closer watch the plane size itself. it gets real big closer it gets.

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« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2004, 12:48:01 PM »
I can and will get used to all of the changes in the new version and for the most part like them all. However this one single issues is the one that I can not stand. I am not sure if there is any chance of HTC changing this to keep people happy but if there is I certainly hope they do. Just my 2cents.

If not. I would realy like to hear the reasoning behind changing this to a much less user friendly counter. Please explain what good comes from it. Thanks, FBRaptor

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« Reply #8 on: June 09, 2004, 01:09:36 PM »
I personally like it now that I have gotten used to it.

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« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2004, 03:40:38 PM »
I personally liked the old system better.  You don't get clues to distance such as shadows, etc at distance on our computers like you would in real life.

I can live with the new at close range, I hardly pay attention to the distance indicator when I am within guns range (read D400 and under).

Not all change is for the better.  But it is just another change, we will have to live with it, adapt and move on.

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« Reply #10 on: June 09, 2004, 03:48:13 PM »
I like them as is,...

You will adapt and in a few weeks you will have forgotten all about them...

I have flown beta since the begginning. After a bit they are fine....

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« Reply #11 on: June 09, 2004, 03:55:29 PM »
O hell, just start pulling the trigger at 1000 out and call it a day:D

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« Reply #12 on: June 09, 2004, 05:22:15 PM »
Must admit to liking them............

There is an interesting point where 1K changes to 1000.........

and as I dont see 6K I assume that  its

5.5K+
5.0K+
4.5K+
4.0K+
 etc to

1.0K+
1000-
800-
600-
400-
200-
0

The fact that we see a 0 indicates that there is a plus factor so I would guess its about plus 50 / minus 150

Hence if my opponent is rock steady on my 12 running I will take a pot shot at 600 cos it is 650max yards and could be 500.........

Les than 400 I am not using the yard indicator
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« Reply #13 on: June 09, 2004, 09:23:37 PM »
I luv the new icon system.

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« Reply #14 on: June 09, 2004, 10:02:53 PM »
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I luv the new icon system.


So then explain why please. What is better and what benifit do you find with the new system?

I believe some guys just saying that because they just agree with everything :cool:     FBRaptor