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« Reply #165 on: June 10, 2004, 10:24:05 PM »
Curval, I respect your views as well as Toad's views.

I consider the Iraq war to be a good thing and I see it as possibly an historic, positive  event in, and for the Middle East.

Maybe we are too close to all of it at this time, but I believe in my heart that we did the right thing and that it will become to be known as a  great thing America helped accomplish.

America does not go to war just for the hell of it, and this war was no different. I think we made the correct choice based on all information available.

I pray for all the families who have lost loved ones on all sides and I do not take any death lightly.

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« Reply #166 on: June 10, 2004, 10:33:11 PM »
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And people have been lieing to start premptive wars since the the pyramids were made as well.

No WMD
No ties to terror.



By international acclaim, and by evidence of Kurdish and Iranian dead, WMD’s did exist in Iraq, the only question is whether they had been destroyed by the time the spring 2003 invasion happened.  UNSC Resolution 687 required the destruction of WMD’s “under international supervision”.  Iraq did not follow 687.
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« Reply #167 on: June 10, 2004, 10:49:10 PM »
It was exactly 00:00:00 3.14. The very beginning of an ordinary day for most people, including most Americans. But not for the inside circle in the White House. Again, there was absolutely nothing noticeable around or inside the White House last night. Yet, it was, it always has been, it will be so, the most important moment of the year! Pi Day! Some pronounce and even write it as Pie Day.
Specific to the American civilization, the date is expressed as '213', instead of the international method of '123' (ascending order: day->month->year). March 14 is expressed as '314', therefore '3.14', therefore the inception of the number 'Pi'. Pi is the divine number that no human can ever calculate precisely. It is at the heart of divine circle. “The area of the circle is equal to Pi times Radius square.”
PI is the result of dividing the circumference (perimeter) of the circle (L) by its diameter (D). The great Greek mathematician Archimedes was the first to calculate Pi. He approximated Pi to 3.14, a value still in wide use today.


ð = L / D

“Why so— month - > day - > year?” terrestrials everywhere wonder.
I am fortunate to have learnt recently a very tight secret. It was passed on to me from a scholar who desired to remain unidentified. The scholar has also remained outside the Internet revolution, unable to write HTML files and author web sites. My web site is the reason she decided to share with me the tightest secret in human civilization. In turn, I promised to make public extraordinary information via the Internet.
When the most precise atomic clock beams exactly 00:00:00 3.14, Almighty Number visits with the President of the United States. The President himself bakes a large apple pie. Almighty Number cuts it into the perfect circle. Then, Its Almighty slices it into portions precisely calculated by the “Golden Number” or “Divine Proportion”.

The Golden Number gives the shape of the entire Universe. Think of it as of those spiral shapes of the galaxies. The Divine Proportion is also found in the human body. The Great Masters, such as Leonardo da Vinci, always used the Divine Proportion in their masterpieces. One can find the Golden Number in Mona Lisa's face, as the ratio between the height and the width of her smiling face. Or vice-versa, as the ratio between the width and the height of her melancholic face. Some think of the Golden Number as the Fibonacci series. In fact, the ratio of any two consecutive numbers in the Fibonacci series tends to approximate the Divine Proportion. The ratio will be equal to the Golden Number in a series with an infinite number of elements.
Let's take a segment and divide it into two parts, a and b. There are two conditions that lead to the Golden proportion:
1) b greater than a (b > a);
2) a/b = b/(a+b).
(The Ancients, by the way, expressed the Divine Proportion in mystical chants comprehensible only to highly initiated cult members. “I am the mean and the extreme!”, they were chanting.)
If we make a + b = 1, the relation a/b = b/(a+b) leads to the well-known equation:


x² + x - 1 = 0.

The two roots of the equation are known as “The Golden Number” or Phi:


Ö = {Sqr(5) ± 1} / 2 = 1.618033989... or Phi = 0.618033989...

Normally, if big / small then Ö = 1.618
if small / big then Ö = 0.618
(Side bar: In the English speaking nations, some write it as Go(l)d(en), indicating the Golden Number as the manifestation of God.)
The most mind-boggling expression of the Golden Number is an infinite series of 1, in the form: (Ö = 1 plus (1 over (1 + (1 over) (1 + 1 over))))… And so one to the infinite. It looks more like a stairway all the way down to minus infinite. The initiated say it is the stairway Almighty Number takes to descend to the earth.

It's the mathematical Stairway to and from Heaven, from minus Infinite to plus Infinite, and infinitely vice versa. There has to be something about the Divine Proportion. Not only did it lead to such a divine visual masterpiece—Mona Lisa. It also brought to life a divine audio masterpiece: Led Zeppelin's Stairway to Heaven. The musical mystics “think” that the distance between the notes of Stairway to Heaven can be represented by the PHI golden number. Did you know that one radio station in Florida plays Stairway to Heaven over and over, the New Year's Eve? They do not play any other song, December 31 until New Year's Day, January 1, 00:00:01. Humans get addicted especially to the divine…

I must make this confession here. I was preoccupied with the divine proportion in my pre-philosophical past. I wrote my first and only novel (never to be published!) following strictly the requirements of the golden proportion. The number of words per line over the number of lines per page had to be compatible with the golden number ratio. The number of lines per page over the number of pages in the book had to lead to the divine proportion. I still have the manuscript here. I never read the story more than once. I only take measurement of the divine proportion parameters sometimes. A beloved lover of the opposite even measured our parts and she did come up with the precise golden proportion. The measurements made me lose consciousness one day. “We are sentenced to immortality”, she warned me. She and I abruptly went different ways; we never, ever, said good-bye to each other. We may believe we'll see each other again on the stairway to heaven.

The “Pi Day” started on March 14, 1776, during the Independence War. Highly secret records show that George Washington gave the order “We shall Circle them!” It is said that at that moment, mid-night sharp, 3.14, 1776, Almighty Number descended on the Divine Stairway to the battlefield. The American revolutionaries formed a devastating circling of the British troops. Not only the war was won, but the world changed for ever on Pi Day 1776. “You shall always worship Me and only Me”, Almighty Number thundered. “You shall build a world upon my laws, and formulae, and equations! And you shall always celebrate Me every year, at this very moment!”
There are many hints of that memorable event. Look at the seals of the US government. They are the representation of the perfect circle! The first flag of the United States represented a circle of stars! The thirteen stars represented Almighty Number and Its Twelve Hours.
There are no religious symbols in the government of the United States. Doesn't that fact alone raise serious questions? How was that possible, in a strongly religious (Christian) society, in an era when religion even decided life or death? The symbol of the cross is nowhere to be found in the armory of the United States! It is said that Almighty Number ordered in a lightening manner: “You shall not use my operational symbols as symbols of your passing power! For the cross resembles +, my symbol of addition. For I add and I take randomly, but you can't and shall not!” The Confederate States used the “X” symbol during the Civil War. “I shall punish them with a vengeance! For X is my reserved operational symbol of multiplication. For I multiply and divide as I randomly please, but you shall not!” One reason the division of the United States was so cruelly stopped: The X on the Confederate flag.
Well, yes, there is also the circular shape of the nuclear explosion…

I wish to each and every one of you a happy Pi Day—male and female, leftist and rightist, sinner and saint, friend and foe! May Almighty Number grant us always the divine proportion between our hopes and our endeavors! And thus we shall not count things we lapse and discount blessings we touch.


Ion Saliu
PS
For the English speakers who search the Internet on “the pronunciation of PI and PHI”, in Classical Greek:
The Greek symbol ö or Ö PHI is pronounced like Fee.
The Greek symbol ð or Ð PI is pronounced like Pea.

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« Reply #168 on: June 10, 2004, 10:55:47 PM »
Too much text..can you condense it and state an opinion or view?

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« Reply #169 on: June 10, 2004, 11:00:36 PM »
No. you have to read it.

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« Reply #170 on: June 10, 2004, 11:03:05 PM »
reading it probably would not give me an insight to your opinion.

Too much text without a comment, sorry

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« Reply #171 on: June 10, 2004, 11:11:23 PM »
Your loss ;)

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« Reply #172 on: June 10, 2004, 11:18:13 PM »
Maybe you could start a thread for it instead of posting it here?

This thread is about the Iraq war

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« Reply #173 on: June 10, 2004, 11:18:43 PM »
Nuke,

It's kind of like a Clinton speech...makes a lot of people feel good...but they can't remember a dam thing he said.

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« Reply #174 on: June 10, 2004, 11:21:02 PM »
Read it. it's about the Iraq war.

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« Reply #175 on: June 10, 2004, 11:25:52 PM »
Ravell is trying to get a numerology parallel into why March 14 was an attack date.

Of course the 1991 attack war was in January, iirc.

>edit:  I was wrong, March 19 was the first attack.  I cannot find any relationship whatsoever to this thread.
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« Reply #176 on: June 10, 2004, 11:27:39 PM »
phew. I hadn't actually read it, apart from the first couple of sentences, so thanks, Holden!

I knew it would mean something.

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« Reply #177 on: June 11, 2004, 01:32:40 AM »
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This thread is getting so politically dense it will eventually collapse on itself sending out large quantities of nothing.

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I love this one :rofl

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« Reply #178 on: June 11, 2004, 03:29:56 AM »
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« Reply #179 on: June 11, 2004, 09:56:14 AM »
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What the worst part of the Iraq war has been.

Can anyone list what has been detrimental to either thier country, the world,  Iraq or Iraqis?

What makes you guys so angry over the war in Iraq? Can you list some reasons?


#1 WHO declared a WAR? Not Congress!! And they are the only ones with the power to do so. Our Country is not at War with the Nation of Iraq, at least not legally at War. We are involved in a Military Action but not a War. This makes a huge difference in many ways, and to declare War on Terrorism? C'mon gimme a break here!!! Of course there's a war on terrorism!!!

#2 If at all, we should have gone after the good ol boy Saddam right when he nailed the Kurds with nerve gas ( He certainly had WMD then did'nt he? ) Or would we have been embarassed for the world to find out where he got it from? Who knows.

#3 IMHO Saddam was,and still is,someone who needed to be removed from power, eliminated, disposed of, or whatever term you would like to use but the entire International Community should have helped and we should stop all foreign aid and trade immediately with those who did not.