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« Reply #90 on: June 14, 2004, 02:12:05 PM »
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Morpheus - nice, but I'd need to see the film before passing judgement. That pic proves nothing. How do we know you haven't got a couple of 2-week accounts set up? OK, I know you well enough to know you wouldn't do that, but you see my point.


Geee Thanks Beetle :rolleyes:

But coming from you I would expect nothing less. ;)
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« Reply #91 on: June 14, 2004, 02:14:06 PM »
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with a 5K advantage of course!  



:lol :eek: :aok :rofl :rofl :aok

Enuff said.

PS- Stay out of the P40 you'll just make it look bad.;)
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« Reply #92 on: June 14, 2004, 02:55:38 PM »
holy crap morph you musta had to hit the rearm pad like 5 times

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« Reply #93 on: June 14, 2004, 07:30:51 PM »
No rearms.
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« Reply #94 on: June 15, 2004, 09:37:08 AM »
Since the thread lost me long ago, I thought I'd comment on your avatar selection.  Both this one and the last one are FREAKING HILARIOUS!!!!  Great choices both times  :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

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« Reply #95 on: June 15, 2004, 10:45:18 AM »
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Originally posted by Rolex

It is fun and classy - Traits that some people still appreciate.


and much like the british sports car (MGB or TGR come to mind) gloriously outclassed.

But that's part of its charm.

Only used the p40 in the CT. The first time i did i was in a 5 minute fight with it. Can't remember what the cons were but i know that the plane was too much for my meagre skills.

to anyone who can fly it successfully.:aok

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« Reply #96 on: June 15, 2004, 11:01:01 AM »
Ran  across this little tale about the P-40 in the book Fighters of World War II by Jeffrey Ethel and Robert T. Sand.  The book is a collection of anecdotes by combat pilots who fought in North Africa, Italy, and Great Britain.

The following tale is told by Barrie Davis, a P-51 pilot of the 325th Fighter Group:  

Davis stated that new P-51 pilots that came to his group were invariably cocky to the point that they were dangerous to themselves.  They felt that the Luftwaffe was finished and that they easily kill anything that flew in their P-51s.  To give them an attitude adjustment the veterans of the group used a war-weary P-40.  Davis was in charge of putting them through a fast, intensive training program, the final flight of which was a mock dogfight between one of the new pilots in a P-51 and any of the veteran pilots flying the P-40.  

Being familiar with the strengths and weaknesses of both aircrafts, the veterans could make the P-51 look outclassed.  Using the P-40s strengths, they could outfly the P-51 at low altitudes.  The new fighter jocks eventually realized that there was more to aerial combat than simply having the better airplane.  At that point the new pilot became ready to listen to everything the veterans had to say.

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« Reply #97 on: June 15, 2004, 11:39:08 AM »
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Being familiar with the strengths and weaknesses of both aircrafts, the veterans could make the P-51 look outclassed. Using the P-40s strengths, they could outfly the P-51 at low altitudes. The new fighter jocks eventually realized that there was more to aerial combat than simply having the better airplane. At that point the new pilot became ready to listen to everything the veterans had to say.
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« Reply #98 on: June 15, 2004, 12:55:15 PM »
"So ya think the P40 is worthless do ya?

This sortie was flown last night. Cons all over, no rearms. "

Ehemmmmm.......Vulch....ehhem mmmm......I got 39 kills in a seafire once vulching...that sortie does nothing to enhance my view of the p40. Its a barely average early war plane with nice guns that turns halfway decent at slow speeds. Who were the 9 newbs that were gracious enuff to let you kill them lol?  :) I love you morph!

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« Reply #99 on: June 15, 2004, 01:00:59 PM »
We have 2 "P40" models, you just can't call em both "P-40"'s and faily deal with the subject.   The "P-40" with the good comments, is the E model.  This version has the same guns as the P-51D (1/3 more firepower than a P-51B).

The P-40B, the flying tigers "P-40" , is a different animal all together.

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« Reply #100 on: June 15, 2004, 01:44:22 PM »
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Who were the 9 newbs that were gracious enuff to let you kill them lol?


Why they were Bish of course. ;)

One thing I might add is the fact that 50 cals are horrible to vulch with in comparison to cannons. If I am going to shoot at a plane its goint to be to get a kill rather than assist someone else in getting a kill. Unless its a squady of course. So in a plane like the P40 with its limited ammo I will only shoot when given good shots, when within 350d and when the plane looks to be 'virgin' of any damage, and lastly I will aim for small parts like wing tips and tail pieces rather than trying to slice the plane in half or blow it up. Just a dab will do ya. ;)

In that sorti all kills were air to air with several assists. Like I said, 50cals just do nothing to vulch. They may pull some parts off but the chances that you will blow the plane up are slim and if you do it will be either a pilot kill or a lucky hit with a 'golden bb' which took a lot of ammo to get to. And with the P40 you dont have a lot.
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« Reply #101 on: June 15, 2004, 01:49:26 PM »
Also.. without the P-40's there is no proper way to play "Rafe and Danny save the fleet"!

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« Reply #102 on: June 15, 2004, 01:52:37 PM »
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Originally posted by JB73
would be nice to see the 202 get the cannon gun package i have read about, and seen posted here.

Only if the performance suffers accordingly.

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« Reply #103 on: June 15, 2004, 02:46:03 PM »
Morpheus - if it was so easy to produce those results with your P40, working with XJ, do it again. But this time, post the film...

...otherwise it's like a Tommy Cooper conjouring trick - the one where he has two boxes, and he has to make a bottle move from one box to the other then back again. He performs the spell to move the bottle from Box1 to Box2, opens Box2 and proclaims "Yes! It's there!", and then works the spell to move it back again to Box1, showing us the contents of the boxes at the end of the trick.

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« Reply #104 on: June 15, 2004, 03:02:24 PM »
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why do we have worthless planes like the p40?


     So B&Zers will auger into the ground trying to get them!

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