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-towd_

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how do you fly the new yak?
« on: May 08, 2000, 01:33:00 PM »
well with the imenent arrival of the yak 9?
i was wonderin what to expect out of its armement (will there be different options)
and what its strengths/weakneses (handel as well as a hog c at 150 kn?lol) manuver flaps? best speed alt ? drop tanks? fuel load (short or long legs)this is a new plane on me. and 190 i know zeke just dead meat in this 1944 sim ( cept spit hehe)

leo where are ya?

Offline Kieren

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« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2000, 02:10:00 PM »
Fast.

I think you are going to feel differently about the Zeke and A5, too. I can get kills in the 202, and the Zeke turns much better and has better guns. The A5 is going to be shocking one way or the other.  

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« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2000, 04:08:00 PM »
Standard Yak-9U armament was 1 Hub (engine) mounted ShVak 20mm Cannnon (same as La5) along with x2 12.7mm USB MG's also nose mounted.

There was a sub-variant of the -9U, called the -9UT ( U = Uluchshenny-"improved", T= Tyazhelowooruzhenny = "heavily armed"). Of the 3,921 Yak-9U's built 282 where UT's, so we may or maynot get the T armament options.

But if so, the Yak-9UT had several armament options.  The x2 12.7mm MG's were replaced x2 B-20 20mm cannons, and the hub mounted cannon was replaced with a single B-20 20mm, or a single N-23 23mm, or a single N-37 37mm, or a single N-45 45mm cannon.

The Yak-9U should have strengths and weakness somewhat similar to the Bf109G10, with good climb and acceleration, slightly better turning ability than the G10, and a top speed of 434mph at 18,500 ft.

To my knowledge it did not carry drop tanks, or bombs. It may have had a field modification to carry rockets though (not sure).

Range was about 550 miles (approximately half that of P-51 or N1K2).

Basically its a very capable air superiority E fighter, be very good in the vertical, but without any air to ground capability, realitvely short legs, and its performance will drop off rapidly over 20k-25k.

Did I miss anything?

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« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2000, 04:25:00 PM »
exactly what i was liikin for thanks  

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« Reply #4 on: May 08, 2000, 06:21:00 PM »
The Yak9U (properly spelled Uluchshyennyi)was basically just a 'sleeker' D model, basically designed for reduced drag, a revised wing with a larger proportion of metal in its structure, aerodynamic improvement to the cockpit canopy, rear fairing and rear fuselage, thicker plywood skinning on the rear fuselage for improved strength, and modified rounded wing tips for greater span and area.  Internal fuel load upgraded +82 lb from the D model to 783 lb. and COMPLETELY redsigned cooling systems.

 When it entered service in June '44 it actually had a very low top speed of 385 mph at 13k with the Klimov VK-105PF-3 engine, but the saving grace came when it was replaced by the VK-107A Vee piston engine rated at 1,650 hp, however, due to the heavier powerplant the 9U's wing had to be moved 3.94 inches forward to keep the COG in the correct spot.

As far as air to ground armament goes, it could carry up to 441 lb of bombs on 2 hardpoints under each wing, usually 2 FAB-100 bombs or boxes of 5.5 lb PTAB-2.5 hollow-charge anti-tank bomblets (like to see those modeled in AH), or six 82mm AtoS rockets.

"We stopped to watch some RAF armorers load a 12,000lb torpedo-shaped bomb on a Lancaster.... One of the RAF airmen said to a Yank gunner, 'I suppose it will be a long time before you fellows carry one of these up in your Fortresses'. The gunner replied 'It will be a damned sight longer before you guys drop one of those babies on Berlin in broad daylight.'"

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« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2000, 07:09:00 PM »
 
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(properly spelled Uluchshyennyi)

Hmmm... I'm not Russian and I don't speak Russian, but Uluchshenny-"improved",  is how Dmitri Khazanov spelled it in his book Series on Soviet Combat Aircraft, I just copied it directly from his book, so take it up with him  

I'm just a poor dumb 'Merican

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« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2000, 12:46:00 AM »
Bring that sissy YAK on. If my 109G10 can't take it, maybe my 190A-8 will. If it can't, there still is the A5  .

The YAK will be interesting I think.  



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« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2000, 02:29:00 AM »
<looks around>.....     YAK ATTACK!!!!!

Couldnt help myself.  

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« Reply #8 on: May 09, 2000, 04:11:00 AM »
'Uluchshyennyi' would be pretty close of how you would pronounce it, but English just doesn't have the right letters for it. It comes from 'luchshe', which means better.

You'd be surprised how different it looks when written in Cyrillic, btw.

Just my 6 yrs of learning Russian, better wait Aper to confirm it  

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« Reply #9 on: May 09, 2000, 06:21:00 AM »
"ye" implies soft "e" which in this case it isn't. "y" at the end substitutes for a letter/sound which does not exist in English

So, the best "anglification" would be "uluchshennyi" - a mix of both spellings .

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« Reply #10 on: May 09, 2000, 06:27:00 AM »
Saying that the Yak-9U will be "slightly more maneuverable" than the Bf 109G-10 is a vast understatement.  In fact, the -9U was able to outmaneuver any late war LW iron easily.  And I'm not boasting, just stating the facts.

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« Reply #11 on: May 09, 2000, 06:57:00 AM »
True Leonid, true   I'm just trying to not frighten the Luftwaffles too much  

Everything I have read on it also indicates that it shouldn't have the nasty trim/handling characteristics that the G10 has. I did read that some models of the -UT had a rather heavy elevator, but thats what you get when you shove those huge cannons and ammunition into the nose of a small light aircraft like that.

However the G10 will have a faster climb rate, about 300-400 ft/min at SL, and will also be over 20mph faster at 20,000 ft.

It should be a very fun aircraft  

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« Reply #12 on: May 09, 2000, 07:42:00 AM »
I agree with Leonid...


Yak 9's were very forgiving and easy to fly...  Low speed handling was excellent and in hard manuevering had excessive energy bleed...  This was a good thing for defense and cutting into someones turn radii for a shot...

Top speed, high alt profromance and fuel load were its only drawbacks.


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« Reply #13 on: May 09, 2000, 02:46:00 PM »
Top speed was a problem? The 9U with the VK107A engine had a top speed of 434 mph at 16k, quite impressive. ;p