Author Topic: Rumsfeld has some secrets. (Read 1175 times)

Flit · « **Reply #45 on:** June 18, 2004, 12:51:08 PM »

I thought that "Terrorists" were not considered POW's and therefore are excluded from the protections of the Geneva Covention.
and how come noone *****es about the arabs that capture and murder non-combatant westerners?
If They don't wanna "go by the rules", then why should we?
y'all better wake up, this is WW3, and most of the world does'nt know it yet.
Some of you ignorants should get educated on the Arab culture

Thorns · « **Reply #46 on:** June 18, 2004, 02:54:55 PM »

Children, it is recess time. Run along and play like nothing ever happened...

Thorns

capt. apathy · « **Reply #47 on:** June 18, 2004, 05:34:30 PM »

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If They don't wanna "go by the rules", then why should we?

because if we don't, whats the difference between us and them?
you don't do the right thing or respect our laws because the other guy is a good guy and deserves it.

you do the right thing inspite of the fact that he doesn't deserve it, because thats who you are, and it's the right thing to do.

how you treat other people says a lot more about you than it does about them.

Lizking · « **Reply #48 on:** June 18, 2004, 05:44:16 PM »

I don't actually buy that argument that we can not pursue a War in a way in which we refuse to conduct our civil affairs. At the bottom, the sheer simplicity of War: Kill the other MF'er, is not who we as a nation are.

We will have to do things that are unthinkable in the context of our civil liberites as citizens to win this war. Not only that, but it does not mean that we are worse than them; it means that we can be just as ruthless as them, IF THEY FORCE US TOO.

There can only be rules in war if it is a war-game. In War, there are no rules, and if you think there are or should be, then you do not understand what War is.

We killed prisoners, firebombed civilians and launched WMD in WWII, as Americans, and I do not feel one iota of shame for it. We did not start that war and we did not start this one. Caveat emptor, bi-otch.

Tumor · « **Reply #49 on:** June 18, 2004, 05:56:49 PM »

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Originally posted by Flit
I thought that "Terrorists" were not considered POW's and therefore are excluded from the protections of the Geneva Covention.
and how come noone *****es about the arabs that capture and murder non-combatant westerners?
If They don't wanna "go by the rules", then why should we?
y'all better wake up, this is WW3, and most of the world does'nt know it yet.
Some of you ignorants should get educated on the Arab culture

Many folks don't realize this... but the U.S. only honors the Geneva Convention if the nation they are fighting honor the Geneva Convention. Iraq clearly did not..... so F'it, make'em disappear painfully

lada · « **Reply #50 on:** June 18, 2004, 06:21:12 PM »

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Originally posted by Flit
Some of you ignorants should get educated on the Arab culture

Well ... did you speak about it with your doctor ?

he may help you.

lada · « **Reply #51 on:** June 18, 2004, 06:25:47 PM »

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Originally posted by Pongo
and anyone that thinks this has a strong equivilency to the SS doenst know much about the SS and gestapo.

actualy SS were military police.. nothing else

VOR · « **Reply #52 on:** June 18, 2004, 06:26:44 PM »

Mmmm'kay.

capt. apathy · « **Reply #53 on:** June 18, 2004, 06:28:43 PM »

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Originally posted by Lizking
We did not start that war and we did not start this one. Caveat emptor, bi-otch.

well you're half right. your long-term memory is doing much better than the short term.

we didn't start WWII, but we definately started the Iraq war.

you where aware that we invaded Iraq, right?

SOB · « **Reply #54 on:** June 18, 2004, 06:30:20 PM »

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Originally posted by VOR
PS: The Bush/Hitler pics are so incredibly clever and thought provoking I didn't know whether to watermelon or go blind.

You see, that's what's called sarcasm. The blatant use of caps lock and the exclamations kinda give it away.

VOR · « **Reply #55 on:** June 18, 2004, 06:38:42 PM »

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Originally posted by SOB
You see, that's what's called sarcasm. The blatant use of caps lock and the exclamations kinda give it away.

I read the zombie thread too, you know. You'll have to excuse my paranoia. I've not been myself lately since I've been stewing over how many of the people I know are actually undead minions of Hades. This kind of worry can make certain social situations awkward.

SOB · « **Reply #56 on:** June 18, 2004, 06:40:44 PM »

AWMac · « **Reply #57 on:** June 18, 2004, 07:02:37 PM »

Zombie Thread was great! Like a breath of fresh morbid air.

Need more threads like that.

Cobra412 · « **Reply #58 on:** June 18, 2004, 08:52:58 PM »

I don't see how a bunch of illegal combatants should be granted rights under the Geneva Convention. If a medical soldier picks up a gun and uses it in combat they are no longer protected under LOAC so why should an extremist in civilian clothing carrying and using weapons?

The "extremists" that are being faced in Iraq are not lawful combatants and therefore have no rights to an extent. They wear civilian clothing and they attack and kill anything without regard to civilians and innocent bystanders.

As far as I'm concerned if they want to fight dirty, then dirty is what they will and should get back in return. And I'm sorry but if they (extremists)took prisoners even before they knew anything about the prison scandal they would still have tortured and mutilated those they captured or kidnapped. To sit here and say we should be following the laws down to the t against a group like this is bs.

The US has always had this label that we won't do what it takes to get the job done no matter what the cost. Somalia was a perfect example. The fighters there knew we wouldn't shoot when women and children were around and took advantage of that. The women and children would purposely get in the way of gun fights and act as a human shield.

If they wanna fight dirty like they do in Iraq so be it, we should do the same. Eye for an eye no matter how it's done.