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Offline BB Gun

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Boroda (or other russian) - got a question
« on: June 16, 2004, 04:59:25 PM »
Now, don't laugh, or take this wrongly but...

We get a lot of Russian engineering workers here doing some temp work before they take it home (i.e. outsourced) back to Moscow.

... and 90% of them have HORRENDOUS Body Oder - B.O. so bad that by the end of the day, you can smell it 3 Dilbert-cubes away.

What are the standards for personal hygene in Russia?

Is deodorant just declasse?  Is body oder a "Manly smell" and deodorant for girly-men?  Or are times hard enough there that deodorant is a luxury, not a necessity?  Whats the story?

I don't know any of these guys well enough to ask them the question - its kind of a personal subject, ya know?  But here in the comfortably pseudo anonymity of the BBS, its easy to ask.  :)

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Offline mora

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« Reply #1 on: June 16, 2004, 05:41:28 PM »
I got to agree. Many of the Russian males I've encountered have had quite a strong body odour. It's just a part of their culture, I think they just wash rarely and don't use too much deodorant. The Females OTOH often use very strong perfumes and that I find quite disturbing...

This is purely my personal experience and not meant in any disrespect towards Russians, every culture has it's pecularities.

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« Reply #2 on: June 16, 2004, 06:24:09 PM »
we had 2 foreign students stay with us about 10 years back..
both smelt unfriendly


really nice guys ..but stink...dam shame  seems to be a euro thing...

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« Reply #3 on: June 16, 2004, 10:06:23 PM »
Look at it this way:

Lenin's been dead for over 80 years and I bet if you opened the door to his 'dilbert cubicle', you'd still get a whiff.

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« Reply #4 on: June 16, 2004, 10:21:54 PM »
I dont understand it either.

No offense of course - I guess its normal over there so they just dont give a ****, but Russians either smell like me after not showering for 6 days or they smell like they just took a bath in cologne.

Disgusting.

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« Reply #5 on: June 16, 2004, 10:28:52 PM »
I have read accounts where German soldiers could smell the Russians before they could see them... This was really useful in night battles!

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« Reply #6 on: June 16, 2004, 10:46:51 PM »
There is a big Russian community here in my Miami.  Personal hygiene isn't a priority with the males or the females.  If the wind is right you can smell the underarm funk 30 meters away.  I bet you could lay very accurate fire on them in the dark that way.

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« Reply #7 on: June 16, 2004, 11:40:02 PM »
This blows...

I'm Russian and I shower three times a day.

My grandfather, on the other hand, has yet to understand the difference between cologne and aftershave.

My parents don't smell at all--at least not of anything associated with the human anatomy.

I think our people are just destined to either turn American or never mate out of their culture again. Just as well, I suppose.

I can drink with the champs though, does that count for anything?

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« Reply #8 on: June 17, 2004, 06:02:56 AM »
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Originally posted by Capt. Pork
This blows...

I'm Russian and I shower three times a day.

My grandfather, on the other hand, has yet to understand the difference between cologne and aftershave.

My parents don't smell at all--at least not of anything associated with the human anatomy.

I think our people are just destined to either turn American or never mate out of their culture again. Just as well, I suppose.

I can drink with the champs though, does that count for anything?


That must be cultural/genetic.  I have a client on the North Beach with a house on the water on Biscayne Bay.  They commute between NYC and Miami Beach weekly. Typically they spend Friday-Monday here.  They have two Russians that live on the premises.  The man attends to the many daily requirements of the structure and the grounds.  The woman attends to domestic work.  Nice people both.  The guy was working outside and he had a 1 gallon water cooler set up.  I poured myself a cup, it was pure vodka.  You never would have guessed it.  The guy doesn't stop working, doesn't seem drunk and you don't want to come near enough so you will never smell his breath.  I'll bet money his employers don't know.

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Re: Boroda (or other russian) - got a question
« Reply #9 on: June 17, 2004, 07:33:24 AM »
Quote
Originally posted by BB Gun
Now, don't laugh, or take this wrongly but...

We get a lot of Russian engineering workers here doing some temp work before they take it home (i.e. outsourced) back to Moscow.

... and 90% of them have HORRENDOUS Body Oder - B.O. so bad that by the end of the day, you can smell it 3 Dilbert-cubes away.

What are the standards for personal hygene in Russia?

Is deodorant just declasse?  Is body oder a "Manly smell" and deodorant for girly-men?  Or are times hard enough there that deodorant is a luxury, not a necessity?  Whats the story?

I don't know any of these guys well enough to ask them the question - its kind of a personal subject, ya know?  But here in the comfortably pseudo anonymity of the BBS, its easy to ask.  :)

Thanks,

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You mention Dilbert cubes.  Could it be those Russians are working overtime and working hard.  Maybe they don't have time to take a bath.

There's no tactful way to tell someone they stink.  Maybe if you made friends with them first it would help.  Provided you're working just as hard as they are.  Probably would be best to bring up the subject while drinking them under the table.:D




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« Reply #10 on: June 17, 2004, 08:03:56 AM »
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I have read accounts where German soldiers could smell the Russians before they could see them... This was really useful in night battles!


Funny because I have read the exact opposite...in Anthony Beevor's Stalingrad.

German troops apparently had a very dictinctive odor of sweat and leather that you could smell from quite a distance away.

I can provide page references if you like.

As to Boroda responding to this thread...I wouldn't hold your breath.  It really doesn't dignify a response.
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« Reply #11 on: June 17, 2004, 08:16:35 AM »
Well...

I don't use deodorant, mostly because I don't like people who smell like perfume store. And it feels... uncomfortable. I take shower at least once every two days in cold time of the year (10 months out of 12 here), and every morning if temperature is over +20C. I mean - not just jump under shower and get myself wet, but wash carefully.

I hate people who have strong body odour, especially in the underground, where sometimes you get pressed agaist someone's sweaty fat body...

I wonder why people who work physically usually smell better then office workers.

Another intersting thing that you probably don't know: every year we have hot water turned off for 3 weeks. It's a usual "profilactics" for the pipe system. You know, you can get in a big trouble if water or heating pipes freeze and blow up in winter when it's below -20C. In my flat they will turn hot water back on Monday. I live in the North of Moscow, not far from water "inlet", and cold water is really cold - I can't wash under cold shower when it's about 8-10C. My Father lives almost in the center, near University, and in his flat cold water is 15-20C in Summer, so I can take a cold shower easily. For over two weeks now I have to boil a bucket of water and wash almost like a cat :mad: or go to my Father or some friend who still has hot water. After Monday I expect some guests visiting me to take a bath...

Russian hygienic tradition is really old. Banya (Finns call it Sauna) was a tradition for centuries. Russians went to banya at least once a week when in Europe people were washed twice in their life: when born and after they died. Now banya is more like a social event, having good time.

As for "smell of the Russian soldiers" - try to live in trenches for a month or two without changing your clothes or underwear and without any chance to wash at all. I bet Soviet soldiers could smell nazis too.

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« Reply #12 on: June 17, 2004, 08:20:30 AM »
It must be cultural, then.

I shower at least once a day, often twice.  I use deoderant daily.  Cologne or aftershave sometimes.

I thought everyone in the US did that.

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« Reply #13 on: June 17, 2004, 08:28:03 AM »
Boroda, under-arm deodorant today has no smell, its simply prevents you from smelling.  Buy some before your associates buy it for you...

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« Reply #14 on: June 17, 2004, 08:39:29 AM »
Got to admit that all the russian men I met smelt. I lived with two of them for two weeks, I actually never saw them take a shower.

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