Gimme a Break

[GScholz]

Originally posted by _Schadenfreude_
Yo GS wanna start a squad?

Sure why not. You know any other players that might be interested?

[Xargos]

Morning Eastern standerd time.  Cutr is on mainly around Midnight, but he likes to fly by himself most of the time even though he is one of the best wingmen I have ever flown with.  I ordered an ATI 9600XT and am waiting for it to arrive.  The rest of my system should be alright I think but it will not be "Top of the line".  AH is the only game I play offline as well as on line so I can't justify spending to much money on it.  I think I would be happy just getting a framerate of 15 right now...lol.

[_Schadenfreude_]

Originally posted by GScholz
Sure why not. You know any other players that might be interested?

lol all the decent ones are already taken...

[GScholz]

With the 9600 you will do more than fine in the video card department. As for the rest of the machine I would recommend minimum 512 mb of memory and a 1.5+ Gig processor. Until HTC fixes the "stuttering" caused by the game loading textures from the hard drive, I suggest using RAMdisk. I've had no problems after I started using it.

[_Schadenfreude_]

Originally posted by Fish323
Current is a totally relative term. With technology changing so rapidly it's hard to keep up. A year ago my system was sufficient play any game out there. With a mortgage, family and basket case pets it is hard to buy a new computer every year to stay current. Again, why fix it if it aint broke.
  The issue is not my system as there are MANY others in the same boat as me. The point I was trying to make is that many of the players I've talked to think that we would have been better served if HiTech worked out the few bugs left in AH1, a game that a moderately current system runs well, rather than supply us with a new version and a plethura of new and exciting bugs to choose from in a game that only a "current" computer will run.
  I'd also like to thank you all for the intelligent views rather than the bashing that I was expecting. This game will be mindblowing when it's finished, but we are definitely not there, and in my opinion not close enough that it should be our only option.
   And yes, he did snicker a bit, but he did the best that he could and I am at least able to play, which is more than some people have. Is it a good marketing strategy to loose a portion of your clientel ON PURPOSE!!??

well my "current" computer is an old 2.2 Dell that I upgraded with a radeon 9800 pro and lots of memory - works fine and is two years old.

I upgraded to be able to play IL2 rather than AH2 but if computer gaming as a whole is your hobby, as it is for me then I do upgrade fairly frequently to stay just behind the curve required in terms of machine power.

As far as marketing strategy - perhaps the enhanced features that utilising a newer machine will create a bigger player base even if you lose some clients who have older machines?

[GScholz]

Originally posted by _Schadenfreude_
lol all the decent ones are already taken...

*lol* yeah, well we better make an impressive two man squad then, so we can attract more players.

Email me, and we'll work out the details.

[GScholz]

Well, I'm off to bed. G'night all.

[_Schadenfreude_]

okok so what we gonna call it - no manly tough sounding names they just sound lame. historical perhaps but most of them are taken and if you are JG 27 for eg how do you go around flying a tiffie.....what about Rooks?

[Xargos]

Processer:  x86 Family 15 Model 1 Stepping 2 GenuineIntel ~1799Mhz

Total Physical Memory: 256MB

Available Physical Memory: 98.55MB

Total Virtual Memory:  875.59MB

Available Virtual Memory:  530.28

Gateway Windows XP home

Thats what I have right now

[Cooley]

Fish, whoever talked ya into that set up may be the one to blame

Tho im no expert... while reserching to build the box i have,
I found that a 1.2 Celeron pretty much sux,as does that Vid card,
and i doubt you could  play any current released game too well

The other flight sim's out there req. even more then AH2 does

Good luck,and i hope ya get set up, cause i enjoy flyin with ya

AH2 is sooooooooooo much better then AH1 because of the flight model alone

Hope ya get things worked out

[MadSquirrel]

I run this game with no problems on a 4-year-old 1.4 gig AMD Athlon with 640 Megs RAM, and an ATI Radeon 7200 series Video card with 64 megs of RAM.  This is not a hot system.  It is not a gaming system.  

I hear a lot of people saying "They shouldn't release it if you can't play it on your old system".  Well if that were true, then we would all have TRS80 computers with 8K of memory from Radio Shack.  And the hot combat sim would be two-dimensional and look like crap.  Buck up people.  If you want play AHII, you are going to have to get your HomePC "II".  Put that 486DX out to pasture and upgrade.  

I figure, and budget, to upgrade my system about every 4 years.  That is about how fast my systems become outdated due to software improvements.  Face it.  As programs become more graphically intensive they are going to need more computer power.  SURPRISE! ! !  And from everything I have read about AHII, what we are seeing now is just the beginning of what it will become.  Does it have bugs?  Yes, but so did AH till the very end.

If you spent any time at all in AHII during the Beta period, you would know that the HT crew fixed bugs within a day or two of being discovered when at all possible.  Can you say that about any "Out of the Box" game that you got?  NO!

AHII is here to stay.  It is a DARN good game.  It is fun, relaxing and as intense a game as I have played in a long time.  Does it require more computer than AH, Yes!  Was this known a long time ago?  YES!  Is it worth it?  IMO most defiantly.

OK, vented all my frustrations about "My system won't run this stupid game" posts.

Fish323:

Do you really mean to tell me that we are stuck with this? Have you seen the bug reports? Do you think it's wise to run a game that some have to rebuild their systems for.

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Your not stuck with it.  You don't like it?  You can always quit.  

Have I seen the bug reports?  Yes.  I played the beta along with a lot of others and helped report some of the "Bugs".  And 90% of the current reports are not bugs at all, but people that haven't got a clue or are unfamiliar with the new or different features of the game.

Do I think it is wise to run a game that some have to rebuild their systems for?  Gee, I don't know.  I guess we could always go back to the old TRS80.  Why progress when you can regress?  Right?  My question to you is this.  10 years ago, if you had a computer then, could you run AH?  The answer is NO!  Did that stop them from coming up with and releasing AH?  If they followed your logic we never would have flown in the first place.

OK.  I'm done.  Let er rip.


LTARsqrl  

[-tronski-]

Originally posted by MadSquirrel
I hear a lot of people saying "They shouldn't release it if you can't play it on your old system".  Well if that were true, then we would all have TRS80 computers with 8K of memory from Radio Shack.  And the hot combat sim would be two-dimensional and look like crap.  Buck up people.  If you want play AHII, you are going to have to get your HomePC "II".  Put that 486DX out to pasture and upgrade.  

I figure, and budget, to upgrade my system about every 4 years.  That is about how fast my systems become outdated due to software improvements.  Face it.  As programs become more graphically intensive they are going to need more computer power.  SURPRISE! ! !

Totally agreed....the wife and I look to upgrade every 3 years or so for her work but I always look to add at least a kik-arse vid card

Originally posted by _Schadenfreude_
well my "current" computer is an old 2.2 Dell that I upgraded with a radeon 9800 pro and lots of memory - works fine and is two years old.

I upgraded to be able to play IL2 rather than AH2 but if computer gaming as a whole is your hobby, as it is for me then I do upgrade fairly frequently to stay just behind the curve required in terms of machine power.

As far as marketing strategy - perhaps the enhanced features that utilising a newer machine will create a bigger player base even if you lose some clients who have older machines?

My 18 month old Dell is a P4 2.66 512 RDRam 128MB Gef ti4600. I'm looking to upgrade the ram to 1Gb but looks like the cheapest way would be to replace the motherboard instead of looking for expensive as hell RDram...and maybe even a new ATI rad 9800 card to help with Lo-mac

 Tronsky

[Xargos]

Originally posted by _Schadenfreude_
okok so what we gonna call it - no manly tough sounding names they just sound lame. historical perhaps but most of them are taken and if you are JG 27 for eg how do you go around flying a tiffie.....what about Rooks?

My Squad has no command structure.  So there is no ranking.  I already have a website built for squad (link below).  Plus you can see our nose art under my name to left. If you wish to join just talk to one of my squadies, they all have invite privs.  Or wait tell next week when I should be back on.  We use channel 121 on the rook side.

[WilldCrd]

Originally posted by Fish323
Do you really mean to tell me that we are stuck with this? Have you seen the bug reports? Do you think it's wise to run a game that some have to rebuild thier systems for. Mass disco's, incredibly poor framerates when in combat zones with more than 5 other players, and unbelievable fuel consumption rates that make it very unlikely you'll land. Those of us who dont care about rank live for the landings, to see our names in lights. Even with drop tanks, most planes cannot return from a 2 sector flight with any time over target.
And just a quick question, why would I care how great the GV's look in a game called ACES HIGH? I know that they are a part of gameplay, but they seem to be the only thing that works halfway decent. Next are we changing the name to Panzers High? It seems to me that everybody I've asked, and I mean EVERYBODY,  suffered some loss of playability in exchange for more detailed video. What made the game great was the feel of the plane, the way you could get into a rhythm, and see what was happening. Just about everyone I asked said that has been lost. The loss of performance has made it blind luck if you even tag your enemy, nevermind shoot him down.
  Even with a computer gaming system specialist setting up my system, a 1.2Ghz Celeron, GeForce FX5200 128M, and 384 of RAM I get a FR of 9 in any kind of field attack situation. (yes, cable internet) I am CO of an 80+ member squad and cant even see the battle. I'm totally useless in a game that I was good at a week ago. I guess after 1 year I'm forced to buy another new computer or quit a game that was once(like 7 days ago) alot of fun for me. What was wrong with AH1 anyway? AH2 will be great when it's ready, but a quick look at the bug reports tells anyone with half a brain that it's not there yet.

Fish maybe I can help ya dude. I got a p3 866 with a FX5200 and im getting 30fps on deck and 60-75 3k up
GV's i get 25fps and 40 when zoomed in on target.
I installed the omega drivers and thats pretty much what did it. If you go this route COMPLETELY uninstall your current drivers first. Also I run my sliders right in the middle max texture at 1024, gound distance maxed.
Also i use enditall before playing so I dont have to many processes running in the background.
If you need any more help let me know.

[WilldCrd]

also fish alot of the bug reports arent bugs but new features or controls that people don't know about and are still getting used to.