Realistic German Markings?

[Deadman]

I really dont care much whether the plane
has em or not. I don't spend much time in
the external view anyway ( I do rem the older
versions of Warbirds had an X on the tail to simulate the swastika but it was removed around 1.11 or so). As long as the cockpit looks cool, the sounds are good (or customizable),and the flight model's good, who cares what it looks like from the outside. It's not worth offending anyone over a minor detail.

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[Kats]

Werewolf, there is a huge difference between the  the US star and the swastika. The swastika is a political logo, not a country logo or flag, IE you don't see P51's flying around with the GOP symbol on it etc etc. If the LW had the German flag colors on their a/c I bet you it would be in this simm and no one would care.

Personally, I would like a simm that takes just as much care in the accuracy of their art work as they do in their FM's. I learned alot about the differences in fighting styles because of decent FM's offered by WB/AH and I wish I could say the same about period camo schemes and a/c markings. The swastika is a small point though, and since we all know what it looked like and where it was located, I wouldn't care too much if they put it on or not. I would not be comfortable knowing that I would be offending someone, and if that was the case I'd say remove it. It's a cool looking logo though   to bad the nazi's thought so too.

[Glasses]

Well Guys I've been quite about this subject,but it interested me a great amount.
The Swastika was the symbol of Nazi Germany,but not of the Luftwaffe , it was put there by order of their Fuhrer who ,sorry to say, was a complete Nut. Only to honor himself , his party and his regime, not the country it represented and the hard working people who designed it and built it. So it has come to me that people don't want to be reminded of, everytime they go up, meet a FW , 109 or 262 they're looking at the Symbol for our modern time of a Murderous, Racist, Killing regime. So it should be either by choice of modifying the artwork or not putting it at all beacuse it is not an essential part of play or tactical importance to put it just history that has past,should not be repeated and not part of a game.

On another note THIS AIN'T HISTORY THIS IS A FLIGHT SIM/GAME, so we got plenty of sources saying how and where this happens, in fact I'm begging to think the HIstory CH has some type of addiction to Germany and the regime they had during WWII.

I'm not in any movement I'm not a commie I'm not a member of any group biased toward any race, in fact I'm white, but don't care much about this whole dilema I just want a good FM , nice artwork and I'll die "Virtually" (let me specify) happy.

G bye take care and LONG LIVE THE BISHOPS DAMNIT!!!!!

[Sascha JG 77]

First of all: The swastika *was* the symbol of Germany under Nazi rule, *not* just the NSDAP. The official German state flag (under Nazi rule) was red with a withe circle in it and a black swastika in the circle.

Reading some of the posts in this thread I think we should enable swastikas for SOME people as it seems that that symbol fits their beliefs.  

Of course I agree that there's more forms of racism than just white racism but I don't wanna start this discssion cause it leads nowhere and can get ugly real soon.

Let's just say that a missing swastika will in no way lessen the fun/enjoyment we get out of a flight sim like AH and so if people are offended by it (for good reasons) leave the swastikas out for christ's sake!


Now...when do I get my 190????


Sascha JG 77 "Herz As!"

[Ozymandias_KoK]

Every time this issue comes up, idiots start spouting off philosophical issues and all that jazz.  It's not a choice by HTC saying they do or don't find swastikas offensive, it's a legal strategy so they can have the game playable by Germans.  Philosphy, right, wrong, my toaster don't farking work, it's all irrelevant.  If you would like to see it changed, go to Germany, get yerself elected to ...uh...whatever they have there, be it Congress/Senate/Parliament, and complain there.  It won't do you any good of course, but at least it'd be the correct forum.  It merits no more discussion than that.  do we really have to do this EVERYTIME?

Just goes to show that those who are ignorant of history are damned to repeat it (even worse they think they are being original  ).  And the rest of us are doomed to suffer it.

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[Pyro]

This thread is locked.  

After reading this thread, it should be apparent why we don't put swastikas on our planes.  International legalities is only a small piece of it.



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Doug "Pyro" Balmos
HiTech Creations