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storch

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« on: June 22, 2004, 09:57:06 AM »
Too nasty he needed to go.  score is 1 good guys 10 to the tenth bad guys.

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« Reply #1 on: June 22, 2004, 10:03:10 AM »
Gone where? I was just  listening to the show a half hour ago.

Who are the "good guys"? "bad guys"

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« Reply #2 on: June 22, 2004, 10:12:13 AM »
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Gone where? I was just  listening to the show a half hour ago.

Who are the "good guys"? "bad guys"


Gone from my market and many others so I'm told.  But it's ok if he is still in that NYC market, somehow they seem compatible to me.  Yes and the lines between good and bad are decidedly blurred so I easily understand your confusion.  Let me clarify it for you.  good = anything GWB says or anything from the RNC, bad = anything from the DNC and Europe.  hope that clears it up for you.

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« Reply #3 on: June 22, 2004, 10:16:15 AM »
...And Bush said we had to squelch dissenting opinions, so Stern had to go.

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« Reply #4 on: June 22, 2004, 10:17:56 AM »
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...And Bush said we had to squelch dissenting opinions, so Stern had to go.


Where did he say that?

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« Reply #5 on: June 22, 2004, 10:18:12 AM »
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...And Bush said we had to squelch dissenting opinions, so Stern had to go.


There you have it the all powerful bush spoke and it became law just as it has always been in America, right?

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« Reply #6 on: June 22, 2004, 10:24:41 AM »
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...And Bush said we had to squelch dissenting opinions, so Stern had to go.


Yeah it had nothing to do with the content of his shows and how he pushed the current laws of the FCC that have been in effect for years...

Blame it on Bush just like everything else...

Stern acts like a big boy but when the FCC came down on his raunchy performances he cried like a little baby, Hope Stern isn't your roll model?

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« Reply #7 on: June 22, 2004, 10:28:06 AM »
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Gone from my market and many others so I'm told.  But it's ok if he is still in that NYC market, somehow they seem compatible to me.  Yes and the lines between good and bad are decidedly blurred so I easily understand your confusion.  Let me clarify it for you.  good = anything GWB says or anything from the RNC, bad = anything from the DNC and Europe.  hope that clears it up for you.


Yes, we still have freedom of choice in NYC.
  Thanks for the clarification, simple definitions from a simple mind.:aok

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« Reply #8 on: June 22, 2004, 10:35:28 AM »
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Yes, we still have freedom of choice in NYC.
  Thanks for the clarification, simple definitions from a simple mind.:aok


Could I conceal carry my pistol if I were a citizen of New York?  Could I shoot and kill an intruder in my home without fear of prosecution?  Could I be free from filth in public airwaves or on the streets?  Wow I can't until we have freedom of choice like you do!! tell me truthfully could I ever become a deep thinker such as yourself?? say that there's hope.

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« Reply #9 on: June 22, 2004, 10:37:16 AM »
Um... Bush is responsible for this... how?

I suppose we should be thankful... in their quest to find fault with anyone but the guilty, the local Libs have moved on from "ITS SOCIETY'S FAULT, CULTURE IS HITLER!" rally cry which could be heard daily circa 1996.

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« Reply #10 on: June 22, 2004, 10:38:07 AM »
this has to be the worst troll ever

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« Reply #11 on: June 22, 2004, 10:40:31 AM »
Actually unlike some of you I have listened to him for years and know that his shows are not offensive at all when you listen in context.

Opra had a show on teenage sex a while back that was far more explicit that any show of Sterns.

Bush is using the FCC to crackdown on radio personalities like Stern. The process is not fair democratic nor impartial. There are no clear rules written to guide broadcasters as to what is obscene or not.

All that has to happen is one listener complain to the FCC and they will start an investigation. Then they decide if what happened was obscene or not. Imagine if you neighbor calls the police to complain about the noise you make and the police then come and decide (not based on any law as to what is too loud) wether to charge you and fine you or not.

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« Reply #12 on: June 22, 2004, 10:44:52 AM »
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this has to be the worst troll ever


tomorow is another day...




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« Reply #13 on: June 22, 2004, 10:46:26 AM »
Obscene Broadcasts are Prohibited at all Times  


Obscene speech is not protected by the First Amendment and cannot be broadcast at any time. To be obscene, material must meet a three-prong test:

An average person, applying contemporary community standards, must find that the material, as a whole, appeals to the prurient interest;

The material must depict or describe, in a patently offensive way, sexual conduct specifically defined by applicable law; and

The material, taken as a whole, must lack serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value.


Indecent Broadcast Restrictions  


The FCC has defined broadcast indecency as "language or material that, in context, depicts or describes, in terms patently offensive as measured by contemporary community broadcast standards for the broadcast medium, sexual or excretory organs or activities." Indecent programming contains patently offensive sexual or excretory references that do not rise to the level of obscenity. Indecent programming may, however, be restricted in order to avoid its broadcast during times of the day when there is a reasonable risk that children may be in the audience.

Consistent with a federal statute and federal court decisions interpreting the indecency statute, the Commission adopted a rule pursuant to which broadcasts -- both on television and radio -- that fit within the indecency definition and that are aired between 6:00 a.m. and 10:00 p.m. are subject to indecency enforcement action.


Profane Broadcast Restrictions  


Profane material is defined as including language that denotes certain of those personally reviling epithets naturally tending to provoke violent resentment or denoting language so grossly offensive to members of the public who actually hear it as to amount to a nuisance.

Like indecency, profane speech is prohibited on broadcast radio and television between 6am and 10pm.


First Amendment and Obscenity/Indecency  


Expressions of views that do not involve a "clear and present danger of serious substantive evil" come under the protection of the Constitution, which guarantees freedom of speech and freedom of the press. The Communications Act prohibits the FCC from censoring broadcast material, in most cases, and from making any regulation that would interfere with freedom of speech. According to an FCC opinion on this subject, "the public interest is best served by permitting free expression of views." This principle ensures that the most diverse and opposing opinions will be expressed, even though some may be highly offensive. The Courts have said that indecent material is protected by the First Amendment to the Constitution and cannot be banned entirely. Nonetheless, the FCC has taken numerous enforcement actions against broadcast stations for violations of the restrictions on broadcast indecency.


Enforcement of Indecent Broadcast Restrictions  


Enforcement actions in this area are based on documented complaints received from the public about indecent or obscene broadcasting. The FCC’s staff reviews each complaint to determine whether it has sufficient information to suggest that there has been a violation of the obscenity or indecency laws. If it appears that a violation may have occurred, the staff will start an investigation by sending a letter of inquiry to the broadcast station.

If a complaint does not contain information sufficient to determine that a violation may have occurred, the complaint will be dismissed. In such a case, the complainant has the option of re-filing the complaint with additional information, filing a petition for reconsideration of the staff action, or filing an application for review (appeal) to the full Commission.

If the facts and information contained in the complaint suggest that a violation did not occur, then the complaint will be denied. In that situation, the complainant has the option of filing a petition for reconsideration of the staff action or an appeal to the full Commission.


Context  


In making indecency determinations, context is key! The FCC staff must analyze what was actually said during the broadcast, the meaning of what was said, and the context in which it was stated.

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« Reply #14 on: June 22, 2004, 10:52:54 AM »
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Actually unlike some of you I have listened to him for years and know that his shows are not offensive at all when you listen in context.

Opra had a show on teenage sex a while back that was far more explicit that any show of Sterns.

Bush is using the FCC to crackdown on radio personalities like Stern. The process is not fair democratic nor impartial. There are no clear rules written to guide broadcasters as to what is obscene or not.

All that has to happen is one listener complain to the FCC and they will start an investigation. Then they decide if what happened was obscene or not. Imagine if you neighbor calls the police to complain about the noise you make and the police then come and decide (not based on any law as to what is too loud) wether to charge you and fine you or not.


I worked in a shop where Howard Stern played all morning long on 105.9 in Miami & Ft. Lauderdale.  I found Howard Stern to be offensive and crude though at times humorous.  I say good ridance just the same.  It's about time that the FTC applied it's own rules.  Howard Stern admitted on air that he did not allow his daughters to listen to his show.  His demise came along on the heels of the exposed breast with an ashtray fastened to it during the superbowl halftime debacle.  Janet Jackson's hideous titties are to blame.  More correctly the national outrage that followed was the result of the tittie exposure.  Janet Jackson's breast was the catalyst.