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Offline Nilsen

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« Reply #15 on: June 24, 2004, 04:55:01 AM »
Have done the required teargas drill in the navy and i did not like it at all. Some people dont react to that at all, but i did :eek:

Dont think ill try the pepperspray (on myslef anyway).

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« Reply #16 on: June 24, 2004, 04:55:40 AM »
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I remember when someone round these here parts shot a can of pepperspray.

He was shirtless, I seem to recall.


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« Reply #17 on: June 24, 2004, 04:57:01 AM »
Has anyone been dosed with pepper spray and CS? Which is worse?

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« Reply #18 on: June 24, 2004, 06:21:59 AM »
Oleoresin Capisicum Spray. Be thankful you experience it in training.  When you get a secondary out on the road fighting a 6ft 4' gorilla built like a brick sh*t house, you will remember that you survived it and fight on.

I was under once such afore mentioned fellow on the floor of a narrow hallway after trying to arrest him for domestic violence. My partner, god bless her soul when aiming her OC at him, ended up spraying it all in my face instead.

Try being blinded, in great pain, under a refrigerator with arms whose only wish is to get his hands on your glock.  As im still here to type this, naturally, I fought on.  He got a liberal secondary dose in the process.

He went down like a big girl screaming and I made my arrest.

I've been hit with it a number of times. Golden rule for any cop, never give up when the sh*ts hit the fan.

Enjoy it in training. You will get feel a great deal more pain in the real world with someone using you as their punching bag at the same time. It wont stop everyone but it will hopefully buy you enough time to cause enough damage and live to win the day.

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« Reply #19 on: June 24, 2004, 01:31:42 PM »
Pepper spray is much worse.
Been through the gas chamber  numerous times in the military. You can actually get use to CS or mase. If you are pumped up you can shrug CS off. Pepper spray on the other hand is like hot sauce in your eyes.

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« Reply #20 on: June 24, 2004, 01:43:52 PM »
friend doing the CRS riot police school in france told me they trained to huddle together (like in rugby) around a regular can of teargas for a few minutes...
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« Reply #21 on: June 24, 2004, 01:58:05 PM »
I got a big dose of OC spray when I was going through jailer training. Glad I became a firemen.:D

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« Reply #22 on: June 24, 2004, 02:23:05 PM »
My brother is a sherrif's deputy. He's told a similar account.

I don't get it. Why do they think you need to experience it? So you know what it's like?

Hell... next they can take you out back and beat you with an Asp... or better yet, maybe shoot you with a small calibre weapon. :D


...just to make sure you know what it's like.
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« Reply #23 on: June 24, 2004, 02:39:45 PM »
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Originally posted by Sandman
My brother is a sherrif's deputy. He's told a similar account.

I don't get it. Why do they think you need to experience it? So you know what it's like?

Hell... next they can take you out back and beat you with an Asp... or better yet, maybe shoot you with a small calibre weapon. :D


...just to make sure you know what it's like.


I think they do it to avoid the "hehe, let's get Tarmac with this stuff and see what it does" mentality after they get issued with it.

As an example, I was playing paintball outdoors one time and a bunch of Macedonian guys who were all good friends were on one team.  After we got our saftey instructions etc we were walking towards the field when the inevitable happened.  One of the Macedonians let his buddy get ahead of him and then shot him right in the butt...from about a foot and a half away.

"Let's see what happens when I do THIS" mentality.

We had to wait almost a half an hour before those two idiots could be separated.  Full on fisticuffs.
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« Reply #24 on: June 24, 2004, 02:45:55 PM »
At least you guys get the real stuff. Before I made the switch to mailhandler I was a letter carrier for three years. They gave us that oil and cheyenne pepper spray. I sprayed a pitbull with it, he started licking it off his snout, he liked it.
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« Reply #25 on: June 24, 2004, 03:11:40 PM »
" don't get it. Why do they think you need to experience it? So you know what it's like? "

There is a very real chance of being hit with it in the line of duty, so it is beneficial to be accustomed to the sensation (indeed, if you ever use it, you usually WILL get some of it on you).   It IS possible to function through it.  In addition, it gives us a very good way of knowing the sort of reaction to expect, having felt it personally and witnessed it happen to a number of other people.

I would much rather know what to expect, than to never get a whiff of it until I'm in a fight with somebody on the street.


Similar training is used for Tazers, stun guns, Asps or PR24 batons and even unarmed techniques used to control a suspect.  


i can't carry a Tazer because I haven't been willing to go through with it yet....the prongs give me the heebee geebees.  Gonna have to real soon tho...mebbe i'll post an AAR, lol.


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« Reply #26 on: June 24, 2004, 04:29:46 PM »
In the Infantry they made us do 100 pushups in the gas room before we could leave, without the mask...   that kinda sucked.

At my unit we used to spray cs or pepper on our hands and wrestle.  Come to think of it, that kinda sucked too...>

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« Reply #27 on: June 24, 2004, 04:48:49 PM »
I once walked through a crowd of hispanic skanks... in full perfumed regalia.  I nearly passed out.

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« Reply #28 on: June 24, 2004, 04:53:34 PM »
Crikey! The North American Hispanic Skank are not to trifled with. ;)

They can be exceedingly vicious.
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« Reply #29 on: June 24, 2004, 05:00:00 PM »
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Pepper spray is much worse.
Been through the gas chamber  numerous times in the military. You can actually get use to CS or mase. If you are pumped up you can shrug CS off. Pepper spray on the other hand is like hot sauce in your eyes.


I figured it probably was. Yeah, my CS experience is usually more of a case of being pissed off than anywhere near incapacitated. It's probably the same way my dog feels when I give him a flea dip.