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« Reply #45 on: June 26, 2004, 05:39:25 AM »
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Hmmm, the last time I flew in there it was a mini MA. It started out evenly with a battle between F6F/F4U and ki61/N1K IIRC. The numbers became imbalanced, and my side - the USN side - became outnumbered 2-1. Last thing I remember was being chased back to base by no fewer than SIX ki61, who then hung around to vulch.

I can find that action in the MA, and have a wider choice of planes.

:lol BINGO! That's 4 times Beet with 4 days to go!

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« Reply #46 on: June 26, 2004, 08:06:20 AM »
Hey Xtreme,

Hows things out there in aces high land? I cancelled awile ago, but have been thinking about coming back.--maybe an excuse to buy a new box--that AMD 64 looks sweet.

I checked out the beta for 2 weeks, it looked good, even on my old 9800pro 128.  Has the game play gotten any better or is it still a hamster wheel?

Anywho, if Strac comes back I may too.  

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« Reply #47 on: June 26, 2004, 08:25:46 AM »
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Hmmm, the last time I flew in there it was a mini MA. It started out evenly with a battle between F6F/F4U and ki61/N1K IIRC. The numbers became imbalanced, and my side - the USN side - became outnumbered 2-1. Last thing I remember was being chased back to base by no fewer than SIX ki61, who then hung around to vulch.

I can find that action in the MA, and have a wider choice of planes.


Missing the point entirely, `ol boy. The difference between the CT and MA has never been a "refuge against being picked on." It's exactly what the current placeholder banner reads:
  • 2 sides (What's a "Bish", "Rook", "Knight?" Heh)
  • Limited planeset (Yes - that means fewer planes to choose from)
  • Historical opponents (No Lalas vs Lalas or P-51s vs P-51s)
  • Historical terrains (Looking fwd to map upgrades currently ... but you won't see pizza there ... even now)

The Combat Theater isn't the "Dueling Arena." But it isn't a three-sided pizza with chesspieces for toppings, either.

And yeah ... it's a great place for change of pace. But it's not an escape from what's integral in Aces High gameplay. So if someone's source of burnout is:
  • Having more than one opponent to deal with at a time ....
  • Having to constantly use SA to keep up with the situation ....
  • Having to deal with odds that are less than "fair" on a regular basis ....

Then I can see where a break from the game is needed. And if they come back expecting the game to have changed to reflect the elimination of any of the above (in any arena other than the DA) .... then that person's just out of touch with AH's virtual reality entirely.

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« Reply #48 on: June 26, 2004, 09:39:37 AM »
Strac, Save yourself the embarassment:rolleyes:

Go protect a cheesesteak:p
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« Reply #49 on: June 26, 2004, 10:06:51 AM »
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Man that is such a load of bs, Fish & others are telling it like it is and your dragging him to your corner of the "your mad for the same reason I am"
Your system this, your system that.........blah blah blah:rolleyes:

Got left in the cold in more ways than one IMO


Someone que the violins......

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« Reply #50 on: June 26, 2004, 11:41:46 AM »
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Missing the point entirely, `ol boy. The difference between the CT and MA has never been a "refuge against being picked on." It's exactly what the current placeholder banner reads:
  • 2 sides (What's a "Bish", "Rook", "Knight?" Heh)
  • Limited planeset (Yes - that means fewer planes to choose from)
  • Historical opponents (No Lalas vs Lalas or P-51s vs P-51s)
  • Historical terrains (Looking fwd to map upgrades currently ... but you won't see pizza there ... even now)

The Combat Theater isn't the "Dueling Arena." But it isn't a three-sided pizza with chesspieces for toppings, either.

And yeah ... it's a great place for change of pace. But it's not an escape from what's integral in Aces High gameplay. So if someone's source of burnout is:
  • Having more than one opponent to deal with at a time ....
  • Having to constantly use SA to keep up with the situation ....
  • Having to deal with odds that are less than "fair" on a regular basis ....

Then I can see where a break from the game is needed. And if they come back expecting the game to have changed to reflect the elimination of any of the above (in any arena other than the DA) .... then that person's just out of touch with AH's virtual reality entirely. [/B]


Week in CT is like a month in MA in terms of experience.

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« Reply #51 on: June 26, 2004, 12:51:36 PM »
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Hey Strac hows it going?


Am I having flashbacks again?  :confused:

Jeezy!!How's it goin bud? Long time .
I used to be a fatalist,
but that part of me died.

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« Reply #52 on: June 26, 2004, 03:11:30 PM »
jEEZY. I just got an alienware 64 bit based system. You will like. :D I havn't been around AH since AH2 was released, I'll be in there monday. I'd say you should check out AH2 again, been see'in alot of the old members ofr 113th. VGhost just came back as well hehe. Well give me a shout if you decide to come back, cyas soon. (Hopefully) :)

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« Reply #53 on: June 26, 2004, 08:19:00 PM »
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Week in CT is like a month in MA in terms of experience.

Huh?

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« Reply #54 on: June 26, 2004, 08:38:41 PM »
Not really.  Usually (like 22 out of 24 hours) the CT is virtually deserted.  The other two it is pretty much a mini-MA, perhaps with more emphasis on bombing (which I haven't really figured out).  

You won't learn anything there you wouldn't learn just as fast in the MA.  Of course, nobody is learning much of anything with regard to fighting in the MA lately.

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« Reply #55 on: June 26, 2004, 08:42:01 PM »
It's a mystery why you even still play Aces High, Urch. You've got to be one of the three most miserable people in the game. Hard to put ya'll in numerical order though. The song's the same in three-part harmony. :D

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« Reply #56 on: June 26, 2004, 08:53:18 PM »
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It's a mystery why you even still play Aces High, Urch. You've got to be one of the three most miserable people in the game. Hard to put ya'll in numerical order though. The song's the same in three-part harmony. :D


Either way he is still right about the CT.

The average players in the aren’t that great. In fact even based on total population there are better "sticks" in the main then in the CT. The CT certainly isn’t a place where you will learn anything more then playing in the main.

In fact with fewer people any lesson learned will take longer in the CT.

The CT could have offered an alternative to main game play. However, it never achieved that and for what ever reason it is just a mini main with fewer players and fewer aircraft choices.

There's gang banging, vulching, base porking, running, furballing, milkrunning, suicide jabo etc... Everything you find in the main except fewer players.

The only real difference was in the maps.

You may prefer the smaller pond but at least be honest about it.

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« Reply #57 on: June 26, 2004, 09:06:25 PM »
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Either way he is still right about the CT.

The average players in the aren’t that great. In fact even based on total population there are better "sticks" in the main then in the CT. The CT certainly isn’t a place where you will learn anything more then playing in the main.

In fact with fewer people any lesson learned will take longer in the CT.

The CT could have offered an alternative to main game play. However, it never achieved that and for what ever reason it is just a mini main with fewer players and fewer aircraft choices.

There's gang banging, vulching, base porking, running, furballing, milkrunning, suicide jabo etc... Everything you find in the main except fewer players.

The only real difference was in the maps.

You may prefer the smaller pond but at least be honest about it.

That's what I said, although maybe a slightly shorter version. :lol

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« Reply #58 on: June 26, 2004, 09:17:26 PM »
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Either way he is still right about the CT.

The average players in the aren’t that great. In fact even based on total population there are better "sticks" in the main then in the CT. The CT certainly isn’t a place where you will learn anything more then playing in the main.

In fact with fewer people any lesson learned will take longer in the CT.

The CT could have offered an alternative to main game play. However, it never achieved that and for what ever reason it is just a mini main with fewer players and fewer aircraft choices.

There's gang banging, vulching, base porking, running, furballing, milkrunning, suicide jabo etc... Everything you find in the main except fewer players.

The only real difference was in the maps.

You may prefer the smaller pond but at least be honest about it.


You're one of the trio. :D

I am honest about it. What I'm not is delusional or unrealistic about what Aces High's "potential" is.

The CT is a gameboard just like the MA. The maps, the planeset ... worked up for immersion. A week-long walk-on flexible scenario for those who can't devote themselves to a more regimented one. An option away from pizza, rooks, bish, knights, resets and all that. We seem to agree on most of that. What we don't seem to agree on is whether or not the sky is falling if players fly how they want to ... just like in the MA.

Some players apparently once thought that the CT was supposed to be Aces High's version of Red Baron 3D or something and ran back to the main and told their buddies that it was safe refuge from whatever particular "gamey" tactic was their pet peeve there. And now it's "skills" ... players no got "skills" unless they fly their plane the way you want them to  ... or fly WHAT you want them to ... or make sure the numbers balance never gets past the 55/45 mark for even a second ... or .... or ... or ...

Here's something you'll never see posted by Wotan, Urchin or Shane:

"Well I had a blast in Aces High today. I didn't worry about what the other guy flew or how he flew it or even if he was flying a fighter or a bomber or sitting in a gv or a gun. I just had fun. I didn't spend time thinking about how much everyone else sucks and how great I am. I didn't belabor how the game's gone downhill and reminisce about how much better it was back in it's earliest beta days. I even decided to be somewhat sociable and treat some guys to salutes and shoot the watermelon a bit. I even laughed at a joke I really didn't think was funny because everyone else besides me is obviously inbred.

It was the bestest day evar!" :lol

Things are pretty much what we make of them and you're part of the recipe too. But nobody takes constant complaining and criticism seriously, yaknow. :aok

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« Reply #59 on: June 26, 2004, 10:43:46 PM »
No, you wouldn't see me post it.  

Mostly because it is mindless drivel, which I'm not real big on.  

I've actually been having a fair amount of fun in Ah2 since it was released.  I've given GV's another chance, and posted about the one thing that I've found irritating since all the way back when I first started playing around with the GVs.  I'll call Pyro next weekend and see what happens with it, all I've ever wanted to hear was their side of that particular issue.  

I've had a few decent fights in the MA, if early war P-40/F4F vs A6M or 109E vs Spit I comes back around in the CT you'll see me in there like last time.  I don't go in there for "immersion", and I doubt most others do to be honest.  I go in because I enjoy taking a P-40/F4F and fighting zeros, and I enjoy both sides of the Spit I vs 109E fight.

Most of what you post is crap, pure and simple, Arlo.  I've never quite figured out exactly what you have against the folks who flew with JV44 & 3/JG2, but you could probably stand to lose the chip on your shoulder.  I don't feel real strongly one way or the other about you, find it curious why you seem to find any post of mine, wotan's, or brady's to be like a red flag to a bull.