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Offline doolitle

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« on: June 25, 2004, 04:19:07 PM »
Can anyone explain and describe the way the 109g6(AHversion) was flown in real life and what role did it play in its service?

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« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2004, 05:17:16 PM »
I am betting this thread will easily hit the 400 posts mark.  Probably more.
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« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2004, 06:07:06 PM »
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« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2004, 06:25:07 PM »
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Can anyone explain and describe the way the 109g6(AHversion) was flown in real life and what role did it play in its service?


* All i know is that Erich Hartman flew it in '43 and down so many inferior pilots on the E. front :)

* I think the G-6 played role as a fighter cover for 190s and as a bomber destroyer against the thousand bomber raids by the 8th AF (USAAF)

* 109Gs and other LW interceptors alsa played as target drons for the '51s :)

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« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2004, 06:32:02 PM »
By 1943 the pilots Hartmann had to face were rarely 'inferior'. The Soviets were growing to be a force to be reckoned with, not only on land, but in the air as well, and not only by numbers, but also in their tactical prowess and skill. By 1944 the Soviet military was probably the most powerful force on Earth.

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« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2004, 07:15:22 PM »
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By 1944 the Soviet military was probably the most powerful force on Earth.


But very limited in its ability to project power beyond the Eurasian landmass.
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« Reply #6 on: June 25, 2004, 07:21:13 PM »
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Can anyone explain and describe the way the 109g6(AHversion) was flown in real life and what role did it play in its service?


The 109G-6 served in almost every fighter role depending on which front it served on. High-altitude interceptor, bomber escort, close air support, fighter-bomber etc. Modified versions served as long-range escort fighters and recon.
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« Reply #7 on: June 25, 2004, 11:37:46 PM »
Keep in mind that when the G6 was first in action in spring of '43, it's primary fighter opponents were much more in it's league then the typical opposition in AH.  In Western Europe it would have squared off against Spitfires, a few Typhoons (almost exclusively used for ground attack missions), and P-47C's.  In the Mediterranean it would have been a mix of Spits, early P-38's (less horsepower, non-boosted ailerons), and P-40's.  On the Ostfront it's primary opponents would have been LaGG-3's, Yak-1's, Yak-7's, P-39's, P-40's, plus a few Hurricanes, Spits, Mig-3's.  The very first La-5's were starting to be introduced and weren't too common yet.

In these environments (especially in the east) the G-6 was still a first rate fighter.  The only problem is that a year later the G-6 was still the standard Bf109 in service and it was now facing P-51's, P-47D's, newer P-38's, Yak-9's and Yak-3's, La-5s and La-7s.  It goes from being about as fast as it's best opposition to being 30+mph slower in many cases.  It wasn't until late '44 that the G-10 and K-4 started to come into service, and by then the quality of the average Luftwaffe pilot and the odds they faced had reached a point where it didn't matter.

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« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2004, 12:01:26 AM »
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But very limited in its ability to project power beyond the Eurasian landmass.


Indeed, without a genuine blue water navy, the Soviets were little more than the local bully. In the 70's and 80's the Soviets built a blue water navy, and that, probably more than anything else, led to their economic breakdown.

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« Reply #9 on: June 26, 2004, 02:43:20 AM »
The Bf 109G-6 was by far most produced and most important Bf 109G version.  Basicly same G-14 stayed in the production until the end.

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