Saw moors film

[DiabloTX]

Nash, here's a challenge.  Prove to me that all that Moore claims in his "documentary" is based on actual facts.  You can not do that anymore than I can disprove them mainly for the reason that his view points in the film are "suggestions" and "allegations".  Therefore, given this I challenge you to come up with any type of facts (sources will not be challenged UNLESS it's an obvious slanted source i.e. CNN, Fox News, MoveOn.org, etc..) that support Moore's opinions in his "documentary".  

I have posted before that he is NOT lying in this film, only using what I said here and in my previous post; suggestions and allegations.

I am man enough to admit when I am wrong and will do so if you can find the facts.  Otherwise this post is an annoying moebius loop of 6 year olds crying "Did to!" "Did not!" ad nauseum.

[rpm]

Originally posted by DiabloTX
Otherwise this post is an annoying moebius loop of 6 year olds crying "Did to!" "Did not!" ad nauseum.

I think you pretty much summed up the O'Club in general Diablo.

[DiabloTX]

Originally posted by rpm371
I think you pretty much summed up the O'Club in general Diablo.

Well, honestly, I expect that from others, but not from Nash.

[Nash]

You want me to take 90+ minutes of talking... mostly by people Moore just happens to be filming, and demonstrate that all of it is true? Yer asking for an army of typists. What if some senator mentions he's got a dog named spot? Do I have to prove that's true as well?

No. Much simpler to take all that talking and for one instance say "aha! lie!" and tell us about it.

That should be easy. But why do ya even ask?

You say "I have posted before that he is NOT lying in this film".

I haven't seen it so I dunno about that. But you seem comfortable with it so why aren't you asking me to prove that the world is round?

[DiabloTX]

It's called putting the shoe on the other foot.  No one has come up to answer your challenge.  So I am challenging you.  Prove that there are indisputable facts founding Moore's claim and I shall say no more...

PS - If you really want a look at Moore's duplicity check out this months Playboy interview.  At one moment he talks about how inaccurate polls are and then right after he quotes a poll supporting his view.  And that's just the tip of the iceberg.

[Nash]

Jeeez... this reminds me of the run-up to the war and all the "prove the un-provable" debates.

If only more people asked the questions you are asking now. Oh well.

But I think my position is the same. Got proof of WMD? Show me. Nobody did.

Oh now Moore is lying? Show me. Nobody can.

[DiabloTX]

Well now, we get to the nitty gritty then.  Let me jack the post then if your gonna be a lazy tard.

Smartest thing MM ever said;

On gay marriage: "Here's what I want to know about gay marriage: Has anybody told the gays and lesbians what marriage is? We married people are all sitting here asking, 'Why are they so damn eager to do this?'"

Dumbest:

On his attraction to Hillary Clinton: "I've always been attracted to her....Hillary is not uptight at all. She's got a great sense of humor. She's got the best laugh. She's feisty. I like women who are strong and smart."

There...fair and balanced.  Piss on all of ya that think I am diluted by my right wing convictions.

[Nash]

Hehe.

But seriously... think about what you asked.

I would need to get a transcript of the film. Then basically have to take each sentence and prove it's a true statement.

I don't think I'm a lazy tard for not undertaking this.

[rpm]

I actually agree with both of those.

OK Diablo here is proof positive that Moore isn't lying. He said Bush was President when the 9/11 attacks occurred.
True or False? True.

Now ya happy?

[SaburoS]

Originally posted by Nash
I'd like to see it too. Moore would in all likelihood get owned by this guy.

Unless Moore was filming it. He'd leave a lot on the editing floor to shape his 'points' and then claim victory
The power of the media.

[Nash]

Good start rpm now do the same thing with every single thing said in the whole entire movie.  

[Nash]

Originally posted by SaburoS
Unless Moore was filming it. He'd leave a lot on the editing floor to shape his 'points' and then claim victory
The power of the media.

Yeah.

And unless Hitchins was writing about it. Then he'd wear out his delete key and also claim victory. The power of the media.

[DiabloTX]

Ok ok, but let me say this.  I am not challenging the general facts as they stand, yes we know who was President on 9/11/01 (hehe RPM).  But on the controverisial aspects of the film.  As I said before I am not claiming Moore is lying (for the people who only read the latest posts on a thread) merely asking for proof of his assertions.  

Ok, now, back to your regularly scheduled dung flinging contest.

[edit] Aaron Neville's "Ave Maria" is a great way to relax after a long day on the O'Club board.

[Nash]

Okay do this for me Diablo.

Describe what you think the end product of what you're asking for would look like.

How many sources would be reasonable enough to prove that every sentence was fact?

Multiply that by the number of sentences.

How many pages do you think your request would fill?

I'm only asking y'all to take ONE sentence and call BS on it.

[SaburoS]

Originally posted by Nash
Yeah.

And unless Hitchins was writing about it. Then he'd wear out his delete key and also claim victory. The power of the media.

Absolutely. It isn't a 'left' or a 'right' thing. It usually boils down to one having preconceived notions and choosing the 'facts' (while leaving out some 'facts') to fit the notion. Rare is it that a truly unbiased documentary exist.