'Fahrenheit 9/11' a No. 1 Hit Across America

[Wanker]

Originally posted by Yeager
I think the evidence is now clear, even without considering anything that Michael Moore says in FH9/11, that our government duped and manipulated the American public into supporting the invasion of Iraq.
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Congrats wank, you have been TOOLED

You're right, Yeager. But it wasn't Micheal Moore who "tooled" me.  It was the Bush administration, because I supported their invasion of Iraq at the beginning.

[lazs2]

thrawn... the new york times poll showed Bush up a few points since the movie came out.  The new york times is pretty lefty too.

banana... just curious... what part of the movie did you think was honest and proved some kind of point?

lazs

[Wanker]

banana... just curious... what part of the movie did you think was honest and proved some kind of point?

The part that showed wounded and dead American servicemen.

The point being that there had better be a *very* good reason before you send our servicemen and women into harm's way.

At first, I thought that getting rid of Saddam was a good enough reason. After a year's reflection and hundreds of deaths  and many more woundings.....I'm not so sure.

[Mighty1]

This is why I think FH9/11 is an honorable film

I bet you think it's a documentary too.

[Wanker]

Actually, I would catagorize it as documentary/propaganda.

Have you actually seen it?

[lazs2]

not good enough banana... by that logic the 5000 or so dead women and babies that were killed by chemical alli and all the brutal torture and shootings of the sadman would make yu glad to send U.S. troops to stop it.  

For instance.. watched a history channel film last night  on the factions in iraq and all the historical stuff was pure brutality and insanity that would make a nazi pale.

Tbe sadman was/is as evil as any man in history.  The sadman would have worked dillegently to get a nuke.   He did before and there is no logical reason why he wouldn't continue to do so the second he thought he could.

Taking him out was an extremely good object lesson.   I bet the terrorists are prayng that kerry is elected.

lazs

[GRUNHERZ]

Originally posted by banana
Actually, I would catagorize it as documentary/propaganda.

Have you actually seen it?

I saw it. It reminded me of nazi and soviet propaganda films I have seen...

[Wanker]

Lazs, I don't think we can or even should be the world's policeman.  We can't go into every country where they have an oppressive government and topple it.

Using your logic, we should have already invaded China and North Korea.

Don't worry, though, if Bush gets re-elected you may get your wish.

[Dead Man Flying]

Originally posted by lazs2
thrawn... the new york times poll showed Bush up a few points since the movie came out.  The new york times is pretty lefty too.

Any boost in Bush's approval rating was temporary.  The latest New York Times poll shows Bush's job approval rating at 42%, the lowest point of his entire presidency.

Here is the link.  Registration required.

-- Todd/Leviathn

[Mighty1]

Actually, I would catagorize it as documentary/propaganda.

Why is it everyone wants to add something to "documentary"?

MM even said it was a "Satirical documentary"

doc·u·men·ta·ry    ( P )  Pronunciation Key  (dky-mnt-r)
adj.
Consisting of, concerning, or based on documents.
Presenting facts objectively without editorializing or inserting fictional matter[/u], as in a book or film

sa·tir·i·cal    ( P )  Pronunciation Key  (s-tr-kl) or sa·tir·ic (-k)
adj.
Of, relating to, or characterized by satire.

So in his own words it's not a TRUE documentary.

[Yeager]

The part that showed wounded and dead American servicemen.
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you had to go see moores film to finally see and be emotionally impacted by wounded and dead amercian servicemen ?  

uh ya!

you been TOOLED......big time toolage

[Wanker]

Originally posted by Yeager
The part that showed wounded and dead American servicemen.
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you had to go see moores film to finally see and be emotionally impacted by wounded and dead amercian servicemen ?  

uh ya!

you been TOOLED......big time toolage

Yeager, are you being dense on purpose? I was just answering Lazs' question. He didn't ask me what my beliefs were, he asked what part of the film I thought was honest and proved a point.

I will continue to debate if you wish, but you're going to have to pay more attention.

[Wanker]

So in his own words it's not a TRUE documentary.

Mighty, so name me a documentary film that has no slant, and is perfectly objective.

You might be able to name one or two, but  I think if you're honest with yourself, you'll agree that every documentary has some slant or point that the filmmaker wants to drive home.

[Yeager]

There is no debate for me.  I made a commitment and I will see it through success or failure.  Too often in the nations history it makes a commitment and then backs off leaving friends in a lurch and enemies stronger.  You play it however you want but if you supported the thing then changed your mind based on a leftist anti americans (moore) propaganda piece then your a weakling plain and simple in my estimation.  A nice weakling for sure.  No squabbles wank.

please yourself bro.

[ravells]

Sometimes it takes a stronger man to admit that he's made a mistake?

Ravs