US soldier executed

[Rafe35]

US Army Keith M. Maupin

[GtoRA2]

 RIP. Keith M. Maupin

[Sandman]

Originally posted by Capt. Pork
You also said something about a cause worth dying for.

My only point was that maybe this one was just that. Orders are orders, sure, but isn't it possible that his heart, not just his ass, was in it?

First, we would have to agree that having your heart in it makes it worthwhile. Separate issues.

I'm relatively certain that PFC Maupin's heart was in it.

[TequilaChaser]

Originally posted by Bodhi
Nice, use a soldiers death to make a pathetic political statement...  he deserves more than that, and you should be ashamed of yourself.

Geez Bodhi,
I don't think BT ( Lonz ) was making any kind of statment, outside the fact that maybe they should have went in and got him like they did with that female soldier in the first part of this war or what ever it is........
He was merely saying he deserved better......I see it as BT just saw the article that this young soldier had just lost his life and he was passing on a to him............

Is a shame, if it was the president or VP or some high ranking official you bet your sweaty arse they wouldn't just sit back and watch/let him be executed now would they?

IS one thing about being enlisted in the military your life holds no value with the military once you pass your specialize training you are just another number and are expendable.........I actually was told this when I served!


BT correct me if I am viewing this wrong...I just don't see it as Bodhi put it! politically anyway


that article was from an ajazeress(can't type them arabic words LOL) newspaper they are the ones that said Bush didn't care....


And may he pass through the gates with GODSPEED   Keith M. Maupin

[newguy]

[Eagler]

may the murdering bast_ards get what karma they have created by taking his soul from his family

those he left behind who are suffering deeply at this very moment

[Captain Virgil Hilts]

Originally posted by TequilaChaser
Geez Bodhi,
I don't think BT ( Lonz ) was making any kind of statment, outside the fact that maybe they should have went in and got him like they did with that female soldier in the first part of this war or what ever it is........
He was merely saying he deserved better......I see it as BT just saw the article that this young soldier had just lost his life and he was passing on a to him............

Is a shame, if it was the president or VP or some high ranking official you bet your sweaty arse they wouldn't just sit back and watch/let him be executed now would they?

IS one thing about being enlisted in the military your life holds no value with the military once you pass your specialize training you are just another number and are expendable.........I actually was told this when I served!


BT correct me if I am viewing this wrong...I just don't see it as Bodhi put it! politically anyway


that article was from an ajazeress(can't type them arabic words LOL) newspaper they are the ones that said Bush didn't care....


And may he pass through the gates with GODSPEED   Keith M. Maupin

TC,
I'm not seeing your buddy come in here and give any discourse on what his statement meant, he didn't correct anyone who you think is getting the wrong perception. If he's quoting from and influenced by Al Jazeera, perhaps he should seek another source.

Regarding  the question of why he was not rescued when Jessica Lynch was: An Iraqi told them where Jessica Lynch was, and took them to her. I seriously doubt any of the insurgents have failed to learn a lesson from that. I don't think any one of them is going to defect, and tell us where the hostages are. It really is that simple when you think about it.

I seriously doubt that they would sit around and let ANYONE be executed TC, get real. I KNOW you know better than that. They'd LOVE to know where these people are, they could not only rescue hostages, but they could kill or capture the insurgents.

Despite what the morons in the media would have you believe, Bush cares about the soldiers a great deal. Just ask the soldiers. No, he does not make a huge scene every time he visits one, or a group. In fact, he is known for his quiet, low key visits. Unlike some, his visits are not designed to make himself look good. They are visits to the troops, not cheapened by some stupid dog and pony show by the media. Just take a look at snopes.com, and see about some of his visits. There are others listed elsewhere, look and you'll find them. But, unlike his predecessor, what George W. Bush does in cases like this is not all about him, it's all about the people he visits.

[TequilaChaser]

Yeh Virgil,
He might come in here never know.....give it a day or so.if not then my bad.

I to don't actually think they sat around and let this happen. I'm sure the military over there tried their hardest fought effort to find him and the other one from NC.

I still don't think BT meant any political statement by using the clipping from that news paper, it was prob the first news he saw of this incident on the web and he relayed the article.

Now alot of people have different views, some are pro this and pro that, I try to keep my views out of this forum, saves me alot of grief    
But  I myself didn't take it as BT trying to make a political statement,  and simply put I guess some others did......

I viewed it as I said earlier............and didn't see anything wrong with him saying he deserved better from his country.............that was his opinion and there wasn't any political thing about that statement, I did not mix the article with the statement, I took the article for what it was, news that they had executed one of our own sons.


btw  I don't see where he quoted anything or was influenced by anyone:

If he's quoting from and influenced by Al Jazeera, perhaps he should seek another source

[beet1e]

A very sad loss. The poor chap was only 20. Unforgivable.

[culero]

Originally posted by rpm371
PFC Maupin

May God be with your family.

hear, hear!

culero

[Bodhi]

TC,

I based my opinion of what BT said concerning the country could have done him much better... IMHO, the country did the best they could, and would have and more than likely did bend over backwards trying to find those men.  So to say that the country owed that man more is more like a political statement than anything else, as in saying we should never have been involved...  IMHO, thats plain bullchit, and has no right being in that part "supposedly" honoring a fallen soldier who deserves our uptmost respect, and does not need his death made into a "political stab" and the Bush administration and it's supporters.

[beet1e]

Let's not turn a thread about this young man's death into a flamefest.

Britain lost a soldier in Iraq yesterday too - bomb blast.

[DmdBT]

Take it for whatever you want, label me whatever you want. This is nothing more than my opinion that if we had the proper resources incountry the senseless losses of our soldiers in inadequately escorted convoys and loses like that 4-man patrol maybe could be avoided. Is it a political slam, maybe, but against who? Could I possible be saying that the political opponents of our current leadership are making it difficult to keep the needed amount of troops in Iraq? Maybe we just don't have a strong enough military because of its raping from the previous administration. I just hate seeing a young American, husband, father, murdered in such a manner not befitting a soldier and having this nagging feeling that there may have been some way to prevent it. This time it just got to me, I can't explain it.

[AWMac]

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Keith M. Maupin.  

May GOD provide his Family and Friends with the strenght to overcome their loss.

[Maverick]

DmdBT,

I got the same impression from your start of this thread as did Bodhi and I think he hit it right on the head with his response. If you had something to say why didn't you make it plain?

I am sorry for the loss of this soldier and wish that it wasn't the case that soldiers die in a combat zone. They do and frankly, it's a risk all take in uniform. It doesn't make it right or easy to deal with. I wish only the best for the family and friends of all those lost in the service.

I do not understand the lack of outrage about this type of action on the part of the enemy. This kind of action is clearly beyond the scope of the activity at abu graib yet recieves little of the criticism that was seen about the abuses there.