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Offline mars01

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« Reply #30 on: July 02, 2004, 10:16:25 AM »
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i.e. - FW190's outperforming LA7's in speed / turning???
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Total BS.

I did test on this offline, Dora vs La7, and the LA7 still out accelerates the Dora, out speeds it, outclimbs it at low altitudes and easily outturns it (all planes easily outturn the Dora and A8's).

If you get killed while flying an LA7 vs a Dora it is nothing but your own fault.
I couldn't agree more.  Electro, I'll take the LA7 you grab a Dora.  My requirement will be that I have to circle you twice before I can pull the trigger.

LA7 is still one of the most capable and fun planes to fly in the MA.  I suggest you practice a little more and get used to the better flight model.  Just because you had it easy in AHI with a flight model that was not completely accurate does not mean we should not have a better mopre accurate flght model.

This game is all about the challenge.  Suck it up, face the new challenge and move on.

Hardware issues are another story and I feel for you there.  But you have to realize 90% of the time it's going to be an issue on your machine.  There are 350+ people in MA every night so HTC is doing something right.
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« Reply #31 on: July 02, 2004, 10:35:03 AM »
wow somebody pissed in ur cereal:) i have a old puter amd 2200 512< w/ 5700 lutra my game is smooth as silk plus my framerates are in the 80 plus, yeah i know its eye candy after 25 or so , but w/ my setup it all works fine, htc doing there best to resolve this issue,
   just hang in there :)

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« Reply #32 on: July 02, 2004, 10:39:34 AM »
Electro... got a solution... frickin quit... maybe x-box may help ease some of the tension.... Skuzzy has a ATI card (X800) and I am sooo jealous...  I have an ole ATI 9200 and am getting 100 fps+ with V-sync off and 60+ with it on...  I am just waiting until HITECH gets all the bugs worked out.. and then in a few months will splurge for the hot card to get all the eye candy that the game has to offer...   can hardly wait until I can push a cards performance all to quality and in the game the same with the max texture 1024....   My dreams are that vivid!!!!!

*Never in my life have I heard so much freakin whining....I mean I am not getting laid.... but at least I am not whining about it... I just go jerk off....  If you gotta problem... do something about it, stfu and quit being part of the problem instead of the solution.*


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« Reply #33 on: July 02, 2004, 10:39:38 AM »
As stated before I haven't heard a vet that has been here 4 years or more complain about anything.

HTC has been working weekends ....cripes you are getting patches on Sundays!

If you'd have been present since the early stages of AHI you would realize that all will be well.

I'm using and AthlonXP2400 and a 9800Pro with frametates in the mid 80s' to no lower then 40!

There are many variables involved with the actual framerate you have.  As there just as many variables with the variety of systems that people use to play these games.

Coming into play for Frame rates....include.

1.) Drivers....are they the latest?

2.) Refresh rate of monitor....you're never going to have a higher frame rate then the refresh rate of your monitor!

3.) Texture size in the game.  Rule of thumb use 512 for 128 mb cards or lower....1024 if you have a 256mb card.

4.) What resolution are you using? 1280X1024? etc. 16bit or 32 bit colors?

5.) where are your sliders set in the video setup in AH2?
      Adjust them to get peak performance.

6.)  Are you using FSAA?  How much? Anisotropic filtering?

7.)  How is your card setup in windows/control pane/display/
      setting/ advanced?  You have vert sync on? application
      preference? always on? always off?

All the above points are available to you to sample and see how they work.  Try asking for help instead of threatening.
HTC and the Community here will go out of their way to help with your setup.  Don't say it doesn't work until you've expended all avenues.  If you don't know about the above avenues we'll be more the glad to help when asked.
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« Reply #34 on: July 02, 2004, 11:16:21 AM »
Hehe - I find myself agreeing with Mars01! :aok Not that I would know anything about LA7 flying. ;):eek:

XP2600 with ATi Radeon 9600 here - 50-75fps, no problems at all.

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Re: Setup
« Reply #35 on: July 02, 2004, 11:18:50 AM »
Sorry...maybe I should have clarified a bit...

AMD 2400+
512 MB Ram
80 GB HDD - Recently defragged / no viruses
ATI 9600XT card
Drivers are the most recent
Textures set to default at 1024
Monitor resolution at 1024 x 768
FSAA - 2X
Antis - set at 2x or 16 x - didn't matter.

Tried settings at full quality and at Full performance. Didn't seem to help much from one setting to the next. Monitor refresh rate is at 100.

Level flight with nothing around, visibility set to medium range give me around 60 fps. That's fine and perfectly happy with that. Unfortunately, that's not what the game is about. When you get into a furball, or even just taking off from the runway and there are complete hangs (i.e. - drops to 7-10 fps) for a few seconds before the video comes back...that's a problem.

Like I said - I know HTC has done a good job in the past. What pisses me off the most is that they released a product full of bugs that should have been better worked out before release to the public. The main reason they released it is due to pressure from the masses. Well...here we are....we got a new game. Great - Looks wonderful! BUT  - if these issues are around I would have rather waited another 6 months or more for them to get the bugs out to save on frustration from numerous people.

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« Reply #36 on: July 02, 2004, 11:23:19 AM »
Nice Birdo....Nice....

Tell ya what...

Go Fokk yerself...

As for doing something about the problem - I am - I'm biatching about it so that it gets fixed! If HTC would have realized that the game still had a lot of bugs that needed to be worked out and WAITED we wouldn't be having this discussion right now. Unfortunately, do to the biatching that's gone on forever about "When is AH2 comin out??" now we are here - with a BUG RIDDEN GAME. I would have preferred to wait until the majority of the bugs were worked out first. Hell, even some of the damed graphics are screwed still - i.e. - Flat Tree Tops? C'mon man...

So - enjoy the bugs...enjoy the performance cause yer getting exactly what ya wanted.

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Electro... got a solution... frickin quit... maybe x-box may help ease some of the tension.... Skuzzy has a ATI card (X800) and I am sooo jealous...  I have an ole ATI 9200 and am getting 100 fps+ with V-sync off and 60+ with it on...  I am just waiting until HITECH gets all the bugs worked out.. and then in a few months will splurge for the hot card to get all the eye candy that the game has to offer...   can hardly wait until I can push a cards performance all to quality and in the game the same with the max texture 1024....   My dreams are that vivid!!!!!

*Never in my life have I heard so much freakin whining....I mean I am not getting laid.... but at least I am not whining about it... I just go jerk off....  If you gotta problem... do something about it, stfu and quit being part of the problem instead of the solution.*


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« Reply #37 on: July 02, 2004, 11:23:27 AM »
Lower your texture setting in game.  Ive heard that 512 and 256 help some people out.

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« Reply #38 on: July 02, 2004, 11:24:39 AM »


I'll give it a try...anything to get some better performance outta this game right now.

Thanks.

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Lower your texture setting in game.  Ive heard that 512 and 256 help some people out.

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« Reply #39 on: July 02, 2004, 11:27:04 AM »
Thanks for the post - missed that one. Gave it a try this morning and not to much better but a "little better". At least it's a small improvement.

Problems still are present though when in furballs / or even a lot of terrain objects (i.e. - flying over field / town).

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« Reply #40 on: July 02, 2004, 11:27:07 AM »
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Like I said - I know HTC has done a good job in the past. What pisses me off the most is that they released a product full of bugs that should have been better worked out before release to the public. The main reason they released it is due to pressure from the masses. Well...here we are....we got a new game. Great - Looks wonderful! BUT - if these issues are around I would have rather waited another 6 months or more for them to get the bugs out to save on frustration from numerous people.
If more people such as yourself had participated in the beta they could have.  Problem is that most people like you weren't participating in the beta so unless they made the cut over the problem would not have presented itself AHII was ready for release.   It's your own fault you didn't take advantage of the beta to get everything worked out.

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« Reply #41 on: July 02, 2004, 11:28:15 AM »
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Unfortunately, do to the biatching that's gone on forever about "When is AH2 comin out??" now we are here - with a BUG RIDDEN GAME.  


Is that what happened?

lol.

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« Reply #42 on: July 02, 2004, 11:30:45 AM »
Ummm...

Excuse me...but I did participate in the Beta. I didn't have the same hardware at the time. So, I went out and bought better hardware to accomodate a bug ridden game.

Funny thing is that all my other games (i.e. - Halo / Unreal Tournament, etc etc) work exceptionally well now with full quality enabled. Seems odd to have to change all my video settings to "tweak performance" for this game where all the other games I just turn on full quality and it works.

Hmmm....

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If more people such as yourself had participated in the beta they could have.  Problem is that most people like you weren't participating in the beta so unless they made the cut over the problem would not have presented itself AHII was ready for release.   It's your own fault you didn't take advantage of the beta to get everything worked out.

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« Reply #43 on: July 02, 2004, 11:31:25 AM »
another argument for....

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« Reply #44 on: July 02, 2004, 11:38:27 AM »
Another intelligent post from a dirty fokker
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