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Offline mars01

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« Reply #45 on: July 02, 2004, 11:52:06 AM »
Sorry for the assumption electro, I didn't see you in there.

So you do realize with the limited number of participants that the beta went as far as it could.  Any more time in Beta had diminishing returns.

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« Reply #46 on: July 02, 2004, 12:11:23 PM »
No Worries.

I just want my fun gaming back cause it's hell right now :-)

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« Reply #47 on: July 02, 2004, 12:18:44 PM »
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Sorry...maybe I should have clarified a bit...

AMD 2400+
512 MB Ram
80 GB HDD - Recently defragged / no viruses
ATI 9600XT card
Drivers are the most recent
Textures set to default at 1024
Monitor resolution at 1024 x 768
FSAA - 2X
Antis - set at 2x or 16 x - didn't matter.

Tried settings at full quality and at Full performance. Didn't seem to help much from one setting to the next. Monitor refresh rate is at 100.

Level flight with nothing around, visibility set to medium range give me around 60 fps. That's fine and perfectly happy with that. Unfortunately, that's not what the game is about. When you get into a furball, or even just taking off from the runway and there are complete hangs (i.e. - drops to 7-10 fps) for a few seconds before the video comes back...that's a problem.
If your rig is working well for other games, but not for AH2, then I suspect your AH2 settings. My CPU is slightly faster than yours, and I too have 512MB of RAM and ATi Radeon 9600 with 128MB. I use the 1280x1024 resolution in AH, 1152x864 for normal Windows apps.

Your spec is close enough to mine that it SHOULD be able to run AH2 OK.

Check your video setup panel inside the AH game itself - what res are you running at?  Also if your frame rate is oscillating, check that you have VSync turned on.

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Re: Re: Re: Setup
« Reply #48 on: July 02, 2004, 12:37:59 PM »
Oscillating but I have V-Sync turned off. As well, my desktop res and game res are the same - 1024 x 768.

Thanks for the help though - it's appreciated. SOmetimes the frustration speaks before the logistical side :-)

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If your rig is working well for other games, but not for AH2, then I suspect your AH2 settings. My CPU is slightly faster than yours, and I too have 512MB of RAM and ATi Radeon 9600 with 128MB. I use the 1280x1024 resolution in AH, 1152x864 for normal Windows apps.

Your spec is close enough to mine that it SHOULD be able to run AH2 OK.

Check your video setup panel inside the AH game itself - what res are you running at?  Also if your frame rate is oscillating, check that you have VSync turned on.

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« Reply #49 on: July 02, 2004, 12:44:02 PM »
This might be a long shot but I had a similar problem (poor or less than expected video performance) after the last two times I upgraded my GFX card.  What happened was my AGP got shut off. In one case I had to use a small utility to reenable it and in the latest case I had to update/reinstall my chipset driver.

Using Google I came up witha hit that should get you started

http://www.computing.net/gaming/wwwboard/forum/1349.html

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« Reply #50 on: July 02, 2004, 12:50:28 PM »
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Hitech,

When you brought out AH2 I thought ok well I'll give it a shot. I thought perhaps my machine was a little under powered due to the framerates I was getting - around 45 or so.

So I went and purchased a new processor (AMD Athalon XP 2400+) and a new video card to compensate (ATI 9600XT 256 MB card). As a result I am getting almost the same frame rates and even WORSE performance. Let alone, seems almost half the guys I talk to have the same crap going on.

You guys had better spend some time trying to fix this and soon because there are a lot of VERY UNHAPPY people out there right now. People are giving it a month or so and then gonna drop like flies. This is going the same way AWIII went and you guys are driving people away now.

Not to mention the flight models have changed quite a bit with some planes now (i.e. - FW190's outperforming LA7's in speed / turning???). That and the stick handling is all screwed up again! When we converted over from AHI to AHII everything was set the same yet all of the sudden all the planes handle different. I didn't change anything...my stick did not break overnight.

One Pissed Off Player...


Working fine here. ;)

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« Reply #51 on: July 02, 2004, 04:51:45 PM »
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With the new flight model I'm finding I can perform the ACM for the planes I fly like the book's describe. Can no longer just rush in and yank the stick to win. I like it. Lotta pilots now bail and dive away rather than spend the time workin me into a low E state.:aok

hehehe cowards and runners:D...thats what most guys will call them.

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« Reply #52 on: July 02, 2004, 05:48:01 PM »
Anyone else get the feeling that it seems like 2-3 people with multiple BBS accounts are posting the same thing over and over again?  As Yogi Berra said, "its like deja vu all over again."

I guess this just points out that what is a sandbox full of toys to many is a litterbox full of "land mines" to a few.

Oh well, I am going to go crack open a beer (or 7) and enjoy the start of a 3 day weekend.

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« Reply #53 on: July 02, 2004, 10:12:52 PM »
getting 100- 125 fps here
did you know the memory on the 256 card is slower then the memory on the 128 ?
and more ram never hurts

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« Reply #54 on: July 02, 2004, 11:02:51 PM »
Electroman.....set your texture size to 512.

128mem vid card should run fine there.

I'm getting 80 fr to no lower then 40 infurball low over a field.

1024 works best with 256mem vid cards.

You won't notice a difference in graphics.  You shouldn't drop to a 7 FR then.

My settings in Display/settings/advanced

for Dx...slider under the Qs in quality (top 2)

Vert sync all the way right to always on.

FSAA is at 4, anisotropic filtering I have off, or application preference.

Set same way for Open GL.  

To make these settings you will have to check the custom box at top right of the Dx and OpenGL tabs.  Don't foget to apply when adjusting your settings.

You can adjust accordingly.  I have a 9800 Pro card and these work very well.

I play in 1240X1024 32 bit resolution.

Refresh rate of monitor is running at 91.1.

Don't forget to set the Video options in the setup section of Aces High 2.  With your card you should be running texture size at 512, not 1024.

Hope this helps.
« Last Edit: July 02, 2004, 11:10:20 PM by Hajo »
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« Reply #55 on: July 03, 2004, 12:15:44 AM »
Well, when I first read this post (ah2 sucks with ATI cards), I was thinking "There, for the grace of God, go I"  and smugly enjoying AH2 with a Nividia card. With the latest patch, we're in the same boat and I'm seriously starting to become annoyed how performance changes from patch to patch. I mean now - this is the only game in town. It's not like , "oh, this patch is fubar, I'll head over to AH1." Now its - oh well - can't play tonight.

Guess I'll load up diablo and CivIII.

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« Reply #56 on: July 03, 2004, 06:46:43 AM »
Patch 5 was GOOD for this ATI card.

Gave me a solid 20 fps boost across the board.

Went from mid 30's in tower, to mid 50's and its better yet on the runway.

Big WTG HTC!
This ones a keeper!

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« Reply #57 on: July 03, 2004, 08:01:32 AM »
TB: Just to check the obvious.

1. Reboot system
2. Make sure your in Shift F1 or SHift F2 view range.
3. Delete your cach folder.
4. Double check 512 max texture size or lower.
5. For a test if you are running any fire wall software , shut it down, do not just disable it,make sure it has been shut down.
6. Make sure all your video card settings are defaults in the windows configuration.


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« Reply #58 on: July 03, 2004, 08:07:27 AM »
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With the latest patch, we're in the same boat



Very true :(

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« Reply #59 on: July 03, 2004, 08:20:52 AM »
Man...I have an average of 12FPS, the only place I whine about it is on squad channel (straffo likes to listen to me whine)
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