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Offline flyingaround

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« on: July 03, 2004, 08:44:37 PM »
who besides me would trade eyecandy for playability in AH?  I for one could give a DURN that I can now see bullet holes in my wings, or the trees are all "perty" now.  Matters not to me if it's not smooth.  

I can't attack gv's anymore.  I can't go to furballs anymore.  Can't fly near the ground anymore.  Heck, I can't even fly over field bases anymore.  All of these will stutter/freeze up my screen.  (all sliders to performance and in F3 mode)  And my system is in the middle.  Not even close to the "min" requirments.

Take the eye candy and pitch it in the trash.  I JUST WANT a smooth flying experience.  SOMEWHERE in the CODE all this "new" implemented stuff is just flat out not working.  Together anyway.  I am willing to wait (for another week or 2 anyways) but for myself, this is horrible.  It's like being addicted to heroin, and only getting methodone.  KINDA works to take the edge off, but I really need my flying fix.  

Dang, I even considered Warbirds today.  WARBIRDS!!! MY GOD! THE HORROR!!!
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« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2004, 09:20:44 PM »
The shame about all this is, with a proper engine you can have both:confused:

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« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2004, 01:19:01 AM »
In about 5 years, the boys in teens are gonna start getting jobs, pay their own things and get credit cards. Many of us will grow old over years, and slowly but steadily the people who fly AH will change with generation.

 These guys, grew up with stuff like Playstation2 and Xbox. You think they'll give a damn about a game that looks aged, no matter how good 'gameplay' is? To those people eyecandy IS a part of gameplay.

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 Whatever problems with AH2 HTC will have to solve it over time, or, maybe somethings will not be solved at all.

 Maybe they could have done a better, more simple job if they just made AH2 stable on a short range of systems, like FB/AEP which is recommended at P4 2.0Ghz and 1024 ram, 128mb video card to even THINK about running at 'perfect' settings.

 But they chose to still let age old systems like Pentium 3s, which is at now at least 3 years behind the tech curve, have a shot at running AH2. In a word, they could have just dumped a lot of us, and made this game state-of-the-art, but did not choose to do so.

 As a AH enthusiast, being patient is the LEAST we could do, to let thank what AH experience has brought to us. You think HT and Pyro are at office slacking away when people complain how they can't run things? They're probably more stumped and upset than anyone of us right now.

 So cut this whiney crap and sit back and wait. AH2 is 1 month old. HTC is gonna stay this course, and I support it fully.

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« Reply #3 on: July 04, 2004, 01:37:57 AM »
FB/AEP which is recommended at P4 2.0Ghz and 1024 ram, 128mb video card to even THINK about running at 'perfect' settings.

Oh no you don't. 'Perfect' setting(s)? Thats just misleading and wrong.

Lose the realistic water maybe, I call BS.

Whatever problems with AH2 HTC will have to solve it over time, or, maybe somethings will not be solved at all.

That's not ever what AH1 was in the context of what AH2 is now.

I have high regards for HTC, but this constant blind faith is really not productive.

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« Reply #4 on: July 04, 2004, 02:37:33 AM »
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In about 5 years, the boys in teens are gonna start getting jobs, pay their own things and get credit cards. Many of us will grow old over years, and slowly but steadily the people who fly AH will change with generation.

 These guys, grew up with stuff like Playstation2 and Xbox. You think they'll give a damn about a game that looks aged, no matter how good 'gameplay' is? To those people eyecandy IS a part of gameplay.

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 Whatever problems with AH2 HTC will have to solve it over time, or, maybe somethings will not be solved at all.

 Maybe they could have done a better, more simple job if they just made AH2 stable on a short range of systems, like FB/AEP which is recommended at P4 2.0Ghz and 1024 ram, 128mb video card to even THINK about running at 'perfect' settings.

 But they chose to still let age old systems like Pentium 3s, which is at now at least 3 years behind the tech curve, have a shot at running AH2. In a word, they could have just dumped a lot of us, and made this game state-of-the-art, but did not choose to do so.

 As a AH enthusiast, being patient is the LEAST we could do, to let thank what AH experience has brought to us. You think HT and Pyro are at office slacking away when people complain how they can't run things? They're probably more stumped and upset than anyone of us right now.

 So cut this whiney crap and sit back and wait. AH2 is 1 month old. HTC is gonna stay this course, and I support it fully.

Ok Kweassa you can put away your pom-poms now...

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« Reply #5 on: July 04, 2004, 03:04:07 AM »
Amen.

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« Reply #6 on: July 04, 2004, 04:32:34 AM »
:rolleyes:

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« Reply #7 on: July 04, 2004, 06:45:34 AM »
Eye candy? Where?:(
Dat jugs bro.

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« Reply #8 on: July 04, 2004, 06:50:47 AM »
Eye candy? LOL! What in the hell are you guys looking at?

Buy  IL-2FB. Come back, and mute yourselves. Geez.

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« Reply #9 on: July 04, 2004, 08:13:42 AM »
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« Reply #10 on: July 04, 2004, 08:51:12 AM »
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So cut this whiney crap and sit back and wait. AH2 is 1 month old. HTC is gonna stay this course, and I support it fully.


Eventually, sure.  SOMEDAY it will be all ok.  I think you misunderstand the thrust of my post.  I don't give a flip about getting 80fps.  I would be TOTALLY happy with a smooth 20-30fps.  With the product as it is, I can only do ONE very limited aspect of this game.  90% of it is unusable to me.  I'm not some Xbox generation kid, and have flown online WW2 sims for say.... (wow, feeling old) 8 or 9 years now.  This isn't my 1st rodeo, and doubt it'll be my last.  AH2 is not ready.  FLAT out.  I have at least a dozen squad mates in the same boat, (also guys that have flown for 6-9yrs+)  with the same/similar issues, who are also very frustrated with their current flying experience.

AH isn't my buddy.  AH isn't some recalcitrant friend who's screwed up and will EVENTUALLY work it all out.  It is a hobby (read:addiction) that I have religiously played for many a year. It is also a service which I pay for.  You are right, AH2 is one month old, and as such I SHOULD have at lest SOME expectation of playability.  I am not being unreasonable here.  I'm not upset that I don't get high fps.  I'm not mad that the game has changed (change is good).  I AM expecting to be able to log in and fly though.  And as of now, that isn't an option due to "whatever" is wrong with the program.
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« Reply #11 on: July 04, 2004, 09:48:07 AM »
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who besides me would trade eyecandy for playability in AH?  I for one could give a DURN that I can now see bullet holes in my wings, or the trees are all "perty" now.  Matters not to me if it's not smooth.  

I can't attack gv's anymore.  I can't go to furballs anymore.  Can't fly near the ground anymore.  Heck, I can't even fly over field bases anymore.  All of these will stutter/freeze up my screen.  (all sliders to performance and in F3 mode)  And my system is in the middle.  Not even close to the "min" requirments.

Take the eye candy and pitch it in the trash.  I JUST WANT a smooth flying experience.  SOMEWHERE in the CODE all this "new" implemented stuff is just flat out not working.  Together anyway.  I am willing to wait (for another week or 2 anyways) but for myself, this is horrible.  It's like being addicted to heroin, and only getting methodone.  KINDA works to take the edge off, but I really need my flying fix.  Dang, I even considered Warbirds today.  WARBIRDS!!! MY GOD! THE HORROR!!!




Flyingaround  ,  I would ! "In a hart beat ,  renew my sub to AH 1 . !
IMHO , if my 2 cents would have  counted, I would have asked for HTC to set up AH2 AS THE TOUR OF DUTY on one server and continue to run AH1 as the it was.

 Then all the people that want or like the Roll Playing , Sunglare, flat spins, No Icons, No Amo countrers, personal skins, short fuel loads, prop pitch, Bonsal trees , trim tabs, the by-guess and by-God gun sights and targeting, etc. etc. . The  new strange flight modeling can continue towards "their concepts or impressions" of what a flight simulator in a roll playing( fantasy ) enviroment should be .
 The other could have still been playing the "Classic AcesHigh 1 game that was "as good as it gets " , that was the most popular flight sim, in  mass arena online gaming .  Their was a good reason AH 1, was/is so successfull,  
Easy Install
Easy learning curve
Great community
 HTC inc. ,   Pyro, , HT,etc. etc.  ...*****(the whole HTC Crew !!!)
 Fester and the CT crew that gave the community great Maps !

Skuzzy ! An extraordinary man, that has always been their for the community, helping players on a one-one- basis , that never quits or runs in the middle of a problem and sees the job thru every time .
 Mitsu Sound Pack for AH 1, big + added .....

  Im sure that there is going to be alot of socalled self appointed  WWII Flight Sim Experts , jumping on my butt for agreeing with Flyingaround's posted comments, posting  all kinds of negative statemants ( some that will be as long as reading The Dead Sea Scrolls ) about AcesHigh 1 sux,  etc. ect , Blah, Blah , Blah ......
 
 Here is one more  for all you critics ..... to shoot for .....

 AcesHIgh 1 was / is most important of all  " FUN "
day in day out FUN !!!
 
 
 
 



    As for me going to WarBirds ?  NFW ....... Their is the "prime time example of eyecandy" , looks great, Playability?, Fun ?, Company player support ?, ....No Thanks !

  Regards ..........

  CHECKERS
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« Reply #12 on: July 04, 2004, 11:52:02 AM »
Kweassa, I happen to be one of those you are discussing that doesnt give a damn about gameplay.

NO ONE, and I mean NO ONE would play this game if all they wanted was graphics. I run my game on low settings even though I dont have to. I just want to be able to dogfight.

Ive played Air Warrior I, II, and III. I still bust out Wolfenstein on a weekly basis and get my fill of killing nazis. Hell, I even play pacman all the time.

And by the way, I hold a job, I pay for Aces High, I bought every component for this computer, and I also built it myself. Im sorry, but your remarks are uncalled for, and you have made the false assumption that my generation has lost sight of what makes anything good.

You might want to think twice before you generalize "those people".

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« Reply #13 on: July 04, 2004, 12:10:42 PM »
Amen, Revrend
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« Reply #14 on: July 04, 2004, 12:12:24 PM »
all u people who prefer AH over AHII need to step up and smell the technology...thers no way AH could be better than AHII..unless u r stuck on playing arcade games:)
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