Author Topic: Pit bull apologists, wake up (Read 2772 times)

myelo · « **Reply #60 on:** July 07, 2004, 01:58:53 PM »

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Originally posted by midnight Target
Well according to this site.. Doggie Info the Pit Bull and the Staffordshire Terrier are one in the same.

Actually, if you carefully read the link, they explain that they are the same "type" not the same "breed".

But this type of confusion is exactly my point. Breed, like race, is not always a distinct feature of a species. That's why "breed"-specific legislation is ridiculous.

lazs2 · « **Reply #61 on:** July 07, 2004, 02:40:34 PM »

yep... I don't understand him either. If I don't have a weapon I look for one. Stand your ground.. try to get your thumbs into his eyes. shooting is still the best tho.

lazs

Sandman · « **Reply #62 on:** July 07, 2004, 03:02:40 PM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
yep... I don't understand him either. If I don't have a weapon I look for one. Stand your ground.. try to get your thumbs into his eyes. shooting is still the best tho.

lazs

No argument here. Think about how you're going to kill the dog not just defend against it.

midnight Target · « **Reply #63 on:** July 07, 2004, 03:11:13 PM »

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Originally posted by myelo
Actually, if you carefully read the link, they explain that they are the same "type" not the same "breed".

But this type of confusion is exactly my point. Breed, like race, is not always a distinct feature of a species. That's why "breed"-specific legislation is ridiculous.

I would cut and paste, but the link is copyright protected.. the basteges!

Basically it says this:
"a physical standard was drawn up for the Pit Bull. The name Pit Bull was a problem for these dog show folks - they felt it would scare people off. They tried several names including Yankee Terrier (a silly name for a bulldog from the UK!) and finally settled on Staffordshire Terrier."

Further down: "To add to the confusion the name Staffordshire Terrier was changed to American Stafordshire Terrier in the 1970's when the AKC decided that the Pit Bulls in England had enough variation to warrant being called a different breed. The UK dogs were now called Staffordshire Bull Terriers."

So basically a Pit is a Pit... they need to be deleted from the gene pool.

slimm50 · « **Reply #64 on:** July 07, 2004, 03:17:34 PM »

Heh. Thank God Chihouhas (you know what I mean) aren't very big, or we'd all be in trouble. (damned ankle nippers)

Sandman · « **Reply #65 on:** July 07, 2004, 03:19:53 PM »

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Originally posted by slimm50
Heh. Thank God Chihouhas (you know what I mean) aren't very big, or we'd all be in trouble. (damned ankle nippers)

No kidding. As stupid as they are, they'd be quite dangerous.

GtoRA2 · « **Reply #66 on:** July 07, 2004, 04:13:58 PM »

If chihowas, or what ever those little mexi dogs are called were bigger, they would work for what the were bred for. Food.

Yum.. I love mexican..

AKcurly · « **Reply #67 on:** July 07, 2004, 06:05:14 PM »

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Originally posted by midnight Target
I would cut and paste, but the link is copyright protected.. the basteges!

Basically it says this:
"a physical standard was drawn up for the Pit Bull. The name Pit Bull was a problem for these dog show folks - they felt it would scare people off. They tried several names including Yankee Terrier (a silly name for a bulldog from the UK!) and finally settled on Staffordshire Terrier."

Further down: "To add to the confusion the name Staffordshire Terrier was changed to American Stafordshire Terrier in the 1970's when the AKC decided that the Pit Bulls in England had enough variation to warrant being called a different breed. The UK dogs were now called Staffordshire Bull Terriers."

So basically a Pit is a Pit... they need to be deleted from the gene pool.

Well, I'm no dog expert, but the English pit bulls I've seen all look exactly like the pit bull in the movie "Patton." The American pit bull has a differently shaped muzzle and appears to be a larger dog than the English pit bull.

curly

Ripsnort · « **Reply #68 on:** July 07, 2004, 06:32:47 PM »

Poodles killers too.

myelo · « **Reply #69 on:** July 07, 2004, 06:38:29 PM »

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Originally posted by AKcurly
Well, I'm no dog expert, but the English pit bulls I've seen all look exactly like the pit bull in the movie "Patton."

The "pit bull" in the movie was a bull terrier, not a pit bull.

See what I'm talking about MT?

AKcurly · « **Reply #70 on:** July 07, 2004, 06:55:50 PM »

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Originally posted by myelo
The "pit bull" in the movie was a bull terrier, not a pit bull.

See what I'm talking about MT?

Thx, Myelo, I hadn't realized that!

curly

Airhead · « **Reply #71 on:** July 07, 2004, 06:57:55 PM »

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Originally posted by jetb123
I get chassed by dogs on a Daily basics. Been chased by them all pits,boxers,labs,german shepards,huskys. Here is some tips when getting a viscous dog runs out at you. You have less than 5secs to react.Never just stay there and freeze I have seen somebody do that it didnt work out to good. What I try to do is look for a busy street our car. Anything that is out of range for dogs. But everytime I gotten chased There was more than one people with me. I cant belive I havent been bitten before. Around my neighbors just let there dogs loose. Not to many of the dogs mess with me no more after they got a coupple bb gun holes in them. hey its either you our them and I sure am not going to let them get me.

Are you a cat??? You sure SOUND like a cat.

midnight Target · « **Reply #72 on:** July 07, 2004, 07:04:28 PM »

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Originally posted by myelo
The "pit bull" in the movie was a bull terrier, not a pit bull.

See what I'm talking about MT?

Even though you and I agree philosophically on many things...I just gotta say.

I'm right and you are wrong. Nanner Nanner!

I can't help it if Curly didn't pay attention in doggie breed class.

myelo · « **Reply #73 on:** July 07, 2004, 07:56:17 PM »

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Originally posted by midnight Target
Even though you and I agree philosophically on many things...I just gotta say.

I'm right and you are wrong. Nanner Nanner!

Dangit! Whupped again...I KNEW I should have played the Nanner Nanner card first.

You're welcome Curly. Bonus question: What was Patton's dog's name?

AKcurly · « **Reply #74 on:** July 07, 2004, 08:16:38 PM »

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Originally posted by myelo
Dangit! Whupped again...I KNEW I should have played the Nanner Nanner card first.

You're welcome Curly. Bonus question: What was Patton's dog's name?

Dang if I can remember and I have the movie too. I do remember him cowering when a small dog (terrier) barked at him.

Man, what a wonderful flick. Right up there with "Battle of Britain", Michael Caine version.

curly