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Offline Sandman

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« Reply #90 on: July 08, 2004, 01:02:58 PM »
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To be honest, from the pictures I remember of Petie, I really think it is a pit.....but I'm certainly not a breed expert at all.


After further review (and a quick Google), I believe I was incorrect. According to this, Petey was an American Pit Bull Terrier.



Doesn't look like a bull terrier at all. I'm probably confusing it with the bull terrier that was on "Baa Baa Blacksheep". His name was "Meatball".
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« Reply #91 on: July 08, 2004, 01:04:28 PM »
Yeah...the poochie on Baa Baa looked like the same doggie from Patton.

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« Reply #92 on: July 08, 2004, 01:10:29 PM »
I've seen pitbulls that were nothing but big babies and as friendly as could be towards other people and other dogs. I've also seen the very aggressive ones, those scare me. As with any dog it really depends on the dogs upbringing and training. Any breed of dog can be aggressive. ( I know, some breeds are more inclined to be aggressive than others).
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« Reply #93 on: July 08, 2004, 01:44:59 PM »
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I've yet to see a mean Rottie. I've owned one ( passed away 2 years ago) Anyone have a male rottie for sale?

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I remember playing soccer with some friends when I was young (8 years or so) when the ball went across the alleyway into the threat range of a tied up Rottwieler.  I went to go get the ball which was opposite of the post and a good 10 feet from the dog (who appeared to be asleep).  As soon as I leaned down to get the ball, the dog lunged at me.  I pulled away just in time for him to tear off the shoulder fabric from my T-Shirt, but otherwise I was just fine.

I've met a lot of good Rotties, but a lot of dogs can be ruined given the 'proper' treatment.

Personally, I plan to have a German Shepard as soon as I can afford a yard for him/her to tear up.  As soon as I have it, I plan on devoting at LEAST 30 mins a day just to training.  The actions of any dog are ALWAYS the direct responsibility of the owner.  Always.

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« Reply #94 on: July 08, 2004, 02:28:47 PM »
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... a tied up Rottwieler.  


Statistically, chained dogs are 3 times as likley to bite as unchained dogs.

Also, males are 6 times as likely to bite as females. And un-neutered dogs are 3 times as liley to bite as neutered dogs.
An un-neutered male dog on a chain almost guarantees soomeone is gonna get bit.
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« Reply #95 on: July 08, 2004, 05:07:47 PM »
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Statistically, chained dogs are 3 times as likley to bite as unchained dogs.

Also, males are 6 times as likely to bite as females. And un-neutered dogs are 3 times as liley to bite as neutered dogs.
An un-neutered male dog on a chain almost guarantees soomeone is gonna get bit.


And in every case, the owner is 100% responsible for the animal's actions.

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« Reply #96 on: July 08, 2004, 07:29:11 PM »
All I have to say here is that I see a lot of people (not all the posters, but a lot of 'em) that have strong opinions about dogs but who in fact apparently don't know jack-**** about dogs.

Here's a clue: in addition to physical attributes, dogs have personalities. Draw some conclusions from that.

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« Reply #97 on: July 08, 2004, 09:31:35 PM »
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All I have to say here is that I see a lot of people (not all the posters, but a lot of 'em) that have strong opinions about dogs but who in fact apparently don't know jack-**** about dogs.

Here's a clue: in addition to physical attributes, dogs have personalities. Draw some conclusions from that.

culero (sheesh, and get a grip)


AND...

Some breeds tend to certain personalities. (grip got)

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« Reply #98 on: July 08, 2004, 11:19:05 PM »
As in people, personality in dogs is in the main a function of environment. The stereotyping you're promoting here is equally as ignorant as stereotyping people by race.

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« Reply #99 on: July 08, 2004, 11:49:52 PM »
Bull culero.  Dogs aren't people, they're animals that have been specifically bred for a purpose.  Let's take Collies for an example since I have two of them.  My three year old is shy and timid yet very personable once you get to know him.  He came from an abusive home.  My one year old that I've had from 8 weeks old is curious but still reserved in unfamiliar situations.  He's happy and energetic, always ready to play.  Two different dogs, two different personalities.  The common ground they share is their INSTINCT, the purpose they were bred for.  Both of them when placed with a group of animals will round them up into a tight circle without giving it a second thought.  Herding dogs herd, it's what they're geared for.

Border collies are excellent examples as well.  Well meaning families with small children and not a whole lot of time on their hands get one because they're supposed to be really smart and housebreak easy.  Inevitably the dog gets bored and takes to herding the kids.  It's not upbringing or the owner's fault (except for getting the wrong kind of dog), it all comes back to the dog's instinct that has been bred in for years.  

Raise a beagle from a pup and then drop him on a trail two years later.  I'll bet he takes off after the first rabbit he smells.  Check out a German Shorthair when he hits a field of birds for the first time.  Something inside him makes him freeze in position and point his body at the quarry.  It's the same thing that can take over a pit bull's mind at any given moment.  I've seen it with my own eyes.  A person can take a dog of any breed and train them to be mean, but some dogs have the instinct to kill firmly planted in their genes.  It's not upbringing, socialization or anything of the sorts, it's INSTINCT.  It's the same reason you can't raise a tiger cub on your own and be completely safe from an attack later in life.

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« Reply #100 on: July 08, 2004, 11:51:52 PM »
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After further review (and a quick Google), I believe I was incorrect. According to this, Petey was an American Pit Bull Terrier.



Doesn't look like a bull terrier at all. I'm probably confusing it with the bull terrier that was on "Baa Baa Blacksheep". His name was "Meatball".


Pettie came from Colby Kennels as i believe Thomas Edison's dog did as well, the RCA logo.

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« Reply #101 on: July 09, 2004, 12:21:42 AM »
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Pettie came from Colby Kennels as i believe Thomas Edison's dog did as well, the RCA logo.



Also Petey mauled Buckwheat on the "Our Gang" set and had to be destroyed. Tell me again how harmless this breed is.

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« Reply #102 on: July 09, 2004, 12:44:58 AM »
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Also Petey mauled Buckwheat on the "Our Gang" set and had to be destroyed. Tell me again how harmless this breed is.


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« Reply #103 on: July 09, 2004, 01:53:06 AM »
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Also Petey mauled Buckwheat on the "Our Gang" set and had to be destroyed. Tell me again how harmless this breed is.


I heard that story too.  O tay?

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