Author Topic: Any updates or leads on the stutter bug? (Read 4471 times)

TweetyBird · « **on:** July 08, 2004, 11:19:50 PM »

Any updates or leads on the stutter bug?

I'm seeing a lot of fixes and they're becomming more and more convoluted. For instance, why would reinstalling directx9 get rid of the stutters? Some one give a technical reason and what file is currupted and fixed with reinstalling directx9. Otherwise I ( and no offense intended) am dismissing it as voodoo. Same with the updated drivers. What in the old drivers could make the program stutter? I read the the fixes of the latest driver and I see NOTHING changed that could create stutter.

Are the stutters related to hard drive access? See, I really think this is the problem (hard drive access).

Edit: BTW, when I say the problem is hard drive access, I think the program should be able to access the HD for a fair amount of time without any stutter. I play DVD's all the time, that are constantly accessing the HD and DVD player, for a hell of a lot more information and they don't stutter. I think something in the program is interfering with low level HD access.

flyingaround · « **Reply #1 on:** July 08, 2004, 11:24:01 PM »

preach on. I log onto bbs 1/2 dozen times a day HOPING for a new patch that will fix this, or some fix in bug reports/tech area.

not flying much unfort. due to screen freezes/stutters.

I hate waiting, i need my flying fix!

TweetyBird · « **Reply #2 on:** July 08, 2004, 11:39:56 PM »

I'm waiting too, sir - checking the annoucements 3 or 4 times a day also

. It could be a toughy that takes a little time - I have no doubt they're concentrating on it. Just wondering if there are any leads yet.

CobraEye · « **Reply #3 on:** July 09, 2004, 02:47:31 AM »

I think you are on to something with the hard drive access problem. I used to have this same problem on my laptop on AH1 when i was travelling and decided to play. Since it was only occasionally that I played on my laptop, I dismissed it as a minor concern. When I upgraded my laptops memory from 256 to 512 the studders almost went away completely. This co-incided with changing from WinME to Win XP home. I wonder if going from 1 gig of ram to 1.5 gig of ram on my desktop would help this problem. It does seem to me that the studders are much less common after my initial flight, but that they appear later on during the session. Memory Leak possibly?

Waffle · « **Reply #4 on:** July 09, 2004, 03:42:24 AM »

try this for grins - next time you log into AH2, look at all the planes and vehicles in the hanger . Every one of them....every different skin. Don't just jump into the game and fly - look every plane/ground vehicle selection in hanger. shouldn't take you more than 2 minutes. Start with the A20 A6m - end with the YAks

let me know here what happens. It's helped some fellow squadmates out - so much that they have no stutters after looking at the planes in the hanger.

AKFokerFoder+ · « **Reply #5 on:** July 09, 2004, 03:12:42 PM »

I almost always get a stutter if I land under these conditions.

I am at very low speed, flaps down, wheels down, riding the stall horn. I am dropping out of the sky, and just when my wheels hit the ground (it is always at the wheels touch down point), I get a pause, everything stops for about maybe a 1/4 second or so, and then I get motion back and the plane is solidly on the runway.

It doesn't seem to stutter if I hit the runway above stall speed, and the plane bounces a couple of times off the asphalt.

Pyro · « **Reply #6 on:** July 09, 2004, 05:11:32 PM »

No major good news yet. I've been going through some different configs and new software but I only have found one way on my box to create stutters of a disruptive magnitude. It's a stretch, but it's worth checking. Can you verify that the cache folder and its contents are not set to read only?

Part of the problem wading through these reports is that there are two different types of stutters occuring. One is sound related and the other is graphic related.

FokerFoder, your problem appears to be sound related. What sound card do you have and what level is your sound acceleration set to?

Waffle · « **Reply #7 on:** July 09, 2004, 05:33:21 PM »

My cache folder is set to read only?
Is that the way it should be?

WilldCrd · « **Reply #8 on:** July 09, 2004, 05:34:06 PM »

Im still getting BAD stutters its only in a furball . Very iritating. Pyro if you guys are gonna be in the office this weekend I can bring my box by there

Pei · « **Reply #9 on:** July 09, 2004, 06:35:55 PM »

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Originally posted by Waffle BAS
My cache folder is set to read only?
Is that the way it should be?

No: it should be writable so AH2 can store things in it.

TweetyBird · « **Reply #10 on:** July 09, 2004, 06:48:59 PM »

The cache folder in AH2 was set to read only. This is not right?
I changed it, and will see if it helps.

When I change the attribute, it reverts to read only when I ckeck it again. Is this just a WinXP thing?

Jackal1 · « **Reply #11 on:** July 09, 2004, 07:02:01 PM »

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Originally posted by Pei
No: it should be writable so AH2 can store things in it.

OK, so how do you go about this?

Waffle · « **Reply #12 on:** July 09, 2004, 07:08:45 PM »

well that would make sense, but I guess that would be a small issue, since it came from HTC as a read only file.

One of the small things that get you, if that solves it.

Kinda like troubleshooting something and realizing after you pulled all your hair out, that one piece of equiptment in the chain was turned off...too busy looking in the back of things to notice the power LED on front

Jackal - right click cache folder, then properties - read only shouldn't be checked by what Pyro said.

So when did my cache folder get to be read only?
was thinking it was the test patch - but realized I uninstalled all AH2 after that and reinstalled fresh.

BTW - I uncheck read-only and close it goes back to cache folder properties - still says read-only too

AKFokerFoder+ · « **Reply #13 on:** July 09, 2004, 07:56:12 PM »

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FokerFoder, your problem appears to be sound related. What sound card do you have and what level is your sound acceleration set to?

I'll bet you are right, seems to me that just after the stutter I get the wheels screech, and then the plane is solidly on the runway. It may be the stall-horn / switch to tire screech.

The sound card is built into the computer - Realtek ACL202 SB Pro compatable.

I have a Go5200 32MB graphics card. These are all built into the laptop, a Toshiba P25 - S507. 1 GB ram, 2.8 GH Intel.

I get almost as good as framerates as in AH1 and sometimes better.

I'll check for any driver upgrades and let you know.

Luv'in AH2

MOSQ · « **Reply #14 on:** July 09, 2004, 08:17:52 PM »

My Stutters are fixed. If you've read my other posts, you know I've been having up to 8 second screen freezes as I approach an enemy plane. I was going to wait to post an indepth analysis after a few days, but the quick of it is I reformatted my hard drive, installed several partitions, put AHII in it's own partition all by itself. The beauty of it's own partition is the ease of reformatting the partition to erase any trace of old AHII files when new versions come out.

Now my system has only the latest versions of all it's drivers, no old junk cluttering it up.

Everything is working awesome. 512 textures, the whole nine yards. I have my performance sliders set farther to the left than ever before. Sound card is set to full acceleration. The graphics are great!

NO stutters. No CTDs. Decent if not spectacular frame rates.

And I just checked, my cache file is NOT set to read only! I have no idea what it was set to before the reformat.

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