Author Topic: The USA (Read 8235 times)

Crumpp · « **Reply #225 on:** July 10, 2004, 09:01:36 PM »

Scottish, Thank you!

In fact the clan still has a castle in Scotland.

Crumpp

Crumpp · « **Reply #226 on:** July 10, 2004, 09:03:06 PM »

LOL...You said it Storch.

Crumpp

Krusher · « **Reply #227 on:** July 10, 2004, 09:08:13 PM »

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Originally posted by Dago
My fathers family heritage was primarily English, my Mothers family Irish, at least as I understand it.

But, we are 100% American.

dago

My Dads family = Irish and German
My Moms side = Italian and Bulgarian

Jayclark · « **Reply #228 on:** July 10, 2004, 09:09:27 PM »

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Yes America's values are rock steady! With slave labour, apartheid, genocide, political persecution ... rock steady ... doesn't change at all.

How many American's do you know? Not someone you met but someone you close friends with? For values to be America's values it has to be the people's values. As far as I know, I know no one with those values. I so glad the rest of the world knows our country values better than us.

Simaril · « **Reply #229 on:** July 10, 2004, 09:20:34 PM »

Categoric statements like "no one" generally do disservice to everyone. There are many who despise what's been done in the past, and there are many who died in america to fight that injustice when it happened -- men who were killed in Mississippi in the 60s for opposing our racist injustices. We opposed them in our own land, and those evils were stopped. We are not perfect, but we keep trying to do what's right. To an american, that is part of the definition of success -- never give up, never surrender.

There are those who deny the holocaust, and there are skin heads and supremacists in europe -- even in progressive countries like, was it the Netherlands? that had a supremacist nominated for high office and then assassinated?

Does that mean that "no one" in europe has learned the lessons of the 20th century?

Jayclark · « **Reply #230 on:** July 10, 2004, 09:31:24 PM »

Ok, sorry misread your post. Yes, it is true America likes to hide its faults way back down in the history books. As do others.(we have did more of it though) But there really isn't no reason to bring up the mistakes. I mean there is probably somethings you have done that you put way down inside you and hope no one ever finds out.

xrtoronto · « **Reply #231 on:** July 10, 2004, 09:37:42 PM »

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Originally posted by Jayclark
there is probably somethings you have done that you put way down inside you and hope no one ever finds out.

boy...you got that one right:aok

Crumpp · « **Reply #232 on:** July 10, 2004, 09:50:52 PM »

Your so profound....

Crumpp

Crumpp · « **Reply #233 on:** July 10, 2004, 10:09:57 PM »

Don't think you got the sarcasm, so let me spell it out.

Your an IDIOT .

Crumpp

demaw1 · « **Reply #234 on:** July 10, 2004, 10:16:52 PM »

scholz
pay attention
I SAID WE MAY CHANGE BUT THE VALUES DONT THEREFORE WHEN WE ARE WRONG WE DO EVENTUALLY GET BACK TO BASICS.

Thanks so much for paying attention. lol
Slaves you are right except for this.the whole world participated in the slave trade including the blacks and your country.I SAID WE DID THINGS WRONG AND PAID A DEAR PRICE FOR IT. We had a civil war over slavery lost 264000 dead 700000plus wounded.show me anytime europe did something like this to right a wrong.O by the way i understand that france and germany have said no to helping in the sudan.GENOCIDE.i dont agree with the word in our case but agree it could be used.America was growing at the time,And the of the age of the indian was over, i am 1/4 true cherokee and the rest mutt.Do i have to go into europe history to show u the peoples u displaced to become who u are? It was the french and herons that wiped out the mohawks.It was the french that introduced scalping to the indians to prove payment for all the british they killed.Most of the American Indians hated each other, Some tribes were wiped out and duh guess what indians had slaves to.That is a human condition ,every race in the world has at one time been slaves to another. POLITICAL PERSECUTION, you with a straight face can bring that up knowing the centuries of extreme persecution europe was the cause of...compared to our mild so called persecution...you know, go jump in a lake ,and take good book maybe u will learn something.Oh and please dont pick one that america has killed with pollution dont want to hear it

Crumpp · « **Reply #235 on:** July 10, 2004, 10:23:15 PM »

Why don't you ask him about his REAL opinion of America?

To him We are CRIMINALS.

Go ahead and let em know GScholz.

Crumpp

demaw1 · « **Reply #236 on:** July 10, 2004, 10:24:21 PM »

ALSO CAN U PLEASE EXPLAIN THE PERSECUTION OF THE JEWS THAT HAS STARTED IN EUROPE AGAIN CAN U.

xrtoronto · « **Reply #237 on:** July 10, 2004, 10:25:54 PM »

I can feel the love

Crumpp · « **Reply #238 on:** July 10, 2004, 10:31:45 PM »

LOL

So, how did your day go xrtoronto?

Crumpp

Jayclark · « **Reply #239 on:** July 10, 2004, 10:32:47 PM »

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There is every reason to remember the mistakes and injustices of the past. Otherwise we might do them all over again in the future.

That is true. But we delt with the past. All the bad things in your past do you speak of them all the time? I bet you don't. But yet do you make that same mistake again? Even though you don't constantly talk about you past you still know not to make the same mistake again. As for slavey, thats one thing we don't hide or forget. I live in Lexington,VA. Slavery is touchy where I live since we was split during that time. We Have VMI(Virginia Millitary Insitute) There is so much damage to that building that is being perserved so we don't forget. You can go see canon balls in the side of the building. They lefted four buildings abandon do to structure intgerty(spelling). Battle of Lexington and Concord didn't happen for nothing. We corrected our wrongs. Why is it so hard for the rest of the world to understand? There are still some mistakes to correct but it takes time.