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« Reply #30 on: July 09, 2004, 12:51:14 PM »
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"1985 lawsuit on behalf of Jennifer Campbell, born brain-damaged after being deprived of oxygen during labor."

I guess I shouldn't find it suprising you didn't read the article you posted.

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how did the doctor do this exactly? He hold his hand over her mouth? Or did it just occur during birth and the doc is sued for it?
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« Reply #31 on: July 09, 2004, 12:51:22 PM »
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Very true.

That being said. It would be nice if the VP candidate wasn't a rather outstanding representative of those who are 'part of the problem'.

Then again, I'd be hard pressed to name a politician who isn't.


He's the VP. He's window dressing. If Bush wasn't such a dim bulb, no one would even notice Cheney.  For example... Gore, Quayle.. :)
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« Reply #32 on: July 09, 2004, 12:52:27 PM »
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Imagine the idiot who spilled hot coffee on her thighs suing because the coffee was hot.
 


Bad example. MacDonalds deserved that one. They were repeatedly warned.
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« Reply #33 on: July 09, 2004, 12:52:41 PM »
Unless of course you look at the profit margin over the past 20 years that insurance companys are making,  I would be willing to bet that they make a higher % every year.  It sounds to me like the insurence companys are raping the doctors,  But then of course insurance companys are one of the biggest lobbies in the country.

Insurance companys are where the real problem is

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« Reply #34 on: July 09, 2004, 12:54:46 PM »
everyone agrees that insurance is half or more of all healtcare costs.   The reason for high insurance is high settlements not high profits for the insurance company.

Unless you think the doctors are so incompetent that the settlements are correct... then, you have to conclude that the major fault lies with the lawyers and the juries.

I just think it is hillarious that this ambulance chaser wants to have anything to do with health care policies in America.   I think it is even more funny that people will vote for this clown.

oh and trell... the size of settlements these days allmost forces higher and higher profits for insurance companies... they can be ruined by fewer and fewer lost cases.

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« Reply #35 on: July 09, 2004, 12:57:33 PM »
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how did the doctor do this exactly? He hold his hand over her mouth? Or did it just occur during birth and the doc is sued for it?


Are you really that stupid?

Do you really think this was a spilling-the-hot-coffee-in-a-lap case? Do you really think that the jury awarded the verdict to the plaintiff because of his eloquence alone?

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« Reply #36 on: July 09, 2004, 12:58:57 PM »
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"1985 lawsuit on behalf of Jennifer Campbell, born brain-damaged after being deprived of oxygen during labor."

I guess I shouldn't find it suprising you didn't read the article you posted.

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you didn't get that quote from the article I posted. Looks like you merged two different cases - good try though - maybe fast eddie needs an assistant

the man is a snake oil salesman, plan and simple - could be another slick willie if america is dumb enough to allow it to happen again...
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« Reply #37 on: July 09, 2004, 01:00:25 PM »
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Are you really that stupid?

Do you really think this was a spilling-the-hot-coffee-in-a-lap case? Do you really think that the jury awarded the verdict to the plaintiff because of his eloquence alone?

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no

yes and the ignorance of the jury on medical matters - he preyed on them to line his pockets
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« Reply #38 on: July 09, 2004, 01:00:49 PM »
Sandman,

No, actually, it's a bad example since McDonalds finally over turned the ruling.  They never paid a dime, but most people don't know that....

It's a great example, though, of the stupidity of some juries.....

McDonalds was warned?  ABOUT WHAT?  YOU BOIL WATER TO MAKE COFFEE... IT'S HOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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« Reply #39 on: July 09, 2004, 01:01:48 PM »
You guys crack me up.  Yeah there are wrongful suites but I would venture a bet that there are more suites where the doctor did screwed up than the other way.

I have a few friends in the medical business and even they have never ending medical horror stories where the doctor fked up or the hospital fked up and most of the time they cover their tulips and say "oh were sorry there were complications" and no one ever knows the real truth.

You guys make it sound like if we got rid of the lawyers then everything would be ok.  I seriously doubt that.

The problem today is a complex one in which the doctors, the lawyers and the insurance companies and the drug companies are to blame.

Hey pork, so what does your dad make a year?  Better yet, how many and what kind of cars does he own?  Something tells me he is not begging in the streets.

Ohh no Edwards was an ambulance chaser.  How about George Bush is a good ole boy Oil tycoon that never did much and got most everything from his daddy.  I'll take the self made millionair from a poor family, trial lawyer any day over a silver spoon baboon.

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« Reply #40 on: July 09, 2004, 01:02:59 PM »
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Wow. He sounds like an attorney. What a suprise. So instead of the family getting nothing from the hospital for harming their daughter, they were able to make them pay. Sounds like a guy who's done his job.

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Except in this case the little girl had (was born with) Cerebral Palsy. The hospital didn't harm her.:mad:

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« Reply #41 on: July 09, 2004, 01:03:42 PM »
Laz i agee that   juries award too much money.  but it is not the lawers that do that it is the juries,  But i will also look at the profit margins in the insurence companys after lunch,  I think they are taking advantage of a bad situation and making it worse.

I dont find them any better then enron jacking up the price of power to cali  a few years back,  or any other company that forced you to buy there servise.  I think if the product is required by law, the goverment need to0 spend more time watching those companys from raping the piblic.

examply i know in michigan that the insurance companys will often setle with victims for 33% less then there insurence is suppose to give them for problems, (this is disabilty insurence I am talking about)
there theory is that if you sure them in michigan the most you can get back is 100% of the claim that they are suspose to pay to the person.so they will awwlays offer 33% less, becasue that is way the lawer will get after the siut.

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Re: Bad Example?
« Reply #42 on: July 09, 2004, 01:06:55 PM »
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Sandman,

No, actually, it's a bad example since McDonalds finally over turned the ruling.  They never paid a dime, but most people don't know that....
 


http://caoc.com/facts.htm

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The parties eventually entered into a secret settlement which has never been revealed to the public, despite the fact that this was a public case, litigated in public and subjected to extensive media reporting.
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« Reply #43 on: July 09, 2004, 01:12:48 PM »
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you didn't get that quote from the article I posted. Looks like you merged two different cases - good try though - maybe fast eddie needs an assistant

the man is a snake oil salesman, plan and simple - could be another slick willie if america is dumb enough to allow it to happen again...


Nope. Try again. Same case. According to reports, hospital personnel ignored indications she was under stress while in the womb and suffered asphyxia leading to the palsy. He writes about it in his book, "Four Trials."  Google her name and his and learn something for a change.

He was a good lawyer who found a niche and used it. Now, if you want to argue that the science used to determine fault in cerebral palsy litigation was incorrecet, I'd say you might have a point--but libelling his character based on excellent job performance is moronic. But again, I forget who I'm talking to.

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« Reply #44 on: July 09, 2004, 01:14:05 PM »
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Except in this case the little girl had (was born with) Cerebral Palsy. The hospital didn't harm her.:mad:


Of course she was "born with" cerebral palsy--the asphyxia occurred in the womb.

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