Perk 3-Gun La-7, Add 2-Gun La-7?

[Zazen13]

Originally posted by Urchin
Leviathn - Spitfire

Kbman- Chog, with the La-7 a distant 2nd

Shane - La7

Fauxbra - La7, Typhoon

Furious - La5

Goob - F4U, La7

Delirium - P-38


I'd be interested in seeing how Delirium does so well against the La7 in the P-38, although I suspect I know the answer.

Other than that, what have you proven?  That you need another La, or some Mk-10H's and you'll win?

Oh... and I've flown it enough to know exactly how superior it is to everything else... but then again I'm not so delusional to think that being the wonderful ace "Urchin" has more of an impact on a fight than the plane I am in.

I think the Lgay7 is the most dweeby plane in the set. It is because of this I make damn sure the little friggin' bastards in 'em don't kill me often. I also make damn sure I kill them first before any other plane while my E state is high....

Zazen's Kills of La7's---            27
Zazen's Deaths by La7's---         2


Just because I kick their arse doesn't mean they are not deserving of a perk price tag. BTW, I never vulch, anything I kill is A2A.

Zazen

[g00b]

My apologies karnak, I musta screwed up somewhere. whoops.

[Furious]

Originally posted by Urchin
Why not raise the bar even more?  Surely newbies will have more success and die less if they are allowed to fly the Me262 for free.  Bet it would be a lot more fun too.

I don't know man, I haven't landed a 262 in like 2 years.  

I do think, however, if folks (especially noobs) are not confident of the rides they choose they will play it super safe and ultra-timid.  They will stay close to base and close to friendly ack and up in the stratosphere.

If an La7/spit/p51 gets their dander up, I am all for it.


...and Thrilla, your math doesn't work out.

[thrila]

How so furious?

If the La7 isn't so great how come it is consistantly the biggest killer of most people.

[Furious]

You said,

Did you check to see which plane was the bigest killer of them?   All but 2 of them it is the la7, it is the 2nd killer for the other 2.

...NM, I misread your statement.



I never said the La7 wasn't a great plane.  It, without a doubt, is.  I said that I don't think it should be perked.

[GODO]

Originally posted by g00b
Because the LA7 sucks bellybutton over 12K.

100% fuel La7 does 388TAS at 15k, still climbs at 2500 fpm at 19k without overheating the engine with wep.

100% fuel 190A8 does 385TAS at 15k with wep, climbs at 2000 fpm at 19k with wep and 1600 fpm without wep.

AH La7 is superb below 15k and very good until 20k.

[Karnak]

MANDOBLE,

Some people are spoiled when it comes to performance and have a completely different scale than we do.

If the La-7 "sucks ass" above 12k, then 90% of the aircraft in AH just plain "suck ass".

Now, that is a definition of a perk plane.   When your poor performance area is still better than 90% of the planeset's high performance area, you better start thinking of just how good your ride is.

[Jasta]

I fly the F6F all the time in the MA, and I usually dont have a problem against Spits, 51s, typhoons, etc. But I always have a problem with LA7s.

I can't outturn them
I can't catch them
I can't even outdive them.

But I dont know whether or not to perk it, but I think it is up to HTC. And I really don't think they are going to do it because of how popular it is. I just think for gameplay purposes, an LA7 filled MA would sure suck. If it ever gets that bad, it needs to be perked.

But for now, i think the answer is teamwork. I dont care who's in what LA7, but if you give me a competant pilot in almost anything, we can nail anything out of the sky. There is a total lack of teamwork in the MA as far as I can see. Flying CT is refreshing and you see some of the teamwork that helps to defeat any opponent. For now, no complaining and get a wingman.

[Overlag]

Originally posted by Jasta
I fly the F6F all the time in the MA, and I usually dont have a problem against Spits, 51s, typhoons, etc. But I always have a problem with LA7s.

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I can't outturn them
I can't catch them
I can't even outdive them.
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But I dont know whether or not to perk it, but I think it is up to HTC. And I really don't think they are going to do it because of how popular it is. I just think for gameplay purposes, an LA7 filled MA would sure suck. If it ever gets that bad, it needs to be perked.

But for now, i think the answer is teamwork. I dont care who's in what LA7, but if you give me a competant pilot in almost anything, we can nail anything out of the sky. There is a total lack of teamwork in the MA as far as I can see. Flying CT is refreshing and you see some of the teamwork that helps to defeat any opponent. For now, no complaining and get a wingman.

exactly my problem, and exactly the way we solve it....winging with your squades make La7's look stupid.... but its kinda sad that you need to 2 on 1 a La7 to kill it.

I mean the La7 has a faster level speed than my 109F's dive speed............

[g00b]

Don't compare the LA7 to the A8, compare it to comparable aircraft. Let's see, over about 13k, the Spit, P51, g10, etc... are all better performers.

[thrila]

The La7 is faster the spit 9 until about 23k......  


Like i said previously, until it gets over 20k only 3 planes are faster than the la7.  La7 sucks over 12k is nonsense.  With the same logic I could say the p51 sucks on the deck because the tiffie, d9 and la7 are faster.

[g00b]

The planes I mentioned all outperform the LA7 at altitude, by outperform, I meant outclimb, out-accelerate and out-turn the LA7. Meaning in a dogfight, these will all win. Once again the LA7 can run away, but I still don't consider that a big advantage if the goal is to actually shoot someone else down.

I think I'm starting to understand where a lot of you are coming from. You folks think that pure flat and level speed is the end-all/be-all of a fighter aircraft. You all keep thinking that. I'll keep padding my score.

g00b

[thrila]

If score is what matters to you, would explain the la7 useage tho.

[simshell]

LA7 has poor range thats its only weak spot sure slowing down and everthing will get you to target but time over target is short and much shorter on wep then almost any other plane

but everthing besides range it is great or good


i think the F6F outturns the LA7


the YAK is good for LA7S thats if they dont run and you dont HO


but i fly the super perk planes alot just because i want to go faster then all nonperk planes

but what is funny is that the LA7 can beat most perk planes in a 1on1 duel if the pliot is not a noob that is

[GODO]

g00b, diving to lower alts is cheap and fast, climbing is not. La7 can simply run away from everything at will, doesnt matter the initial altitude. And it is not over 13k, but over 19k when AH La7 starts to be really less competitive. At 19k La7 is still about 32mph faster than SpitIX and about 10 mph faster than F4U1D, probably same top speed than P47D40. All that without overheating the engine with wep (big, really big advantage). Above 7K La7 does not need wep, now go and compare La7 performance against, for example, 190D9 without WEP.