Perk 3-Gun La-7, Add 2-Gun La-7?

[Halo]

I doubt many people knew of the la7 before coming to AH.

Or the C202 and C205.  Or the Niki.  Aces High has definitely enlightened us.

[Furious]

If flying an La7 makes someone more confident and more likely to engage, then that is a good thing.  We need more people willing to mix it up.

What pisses most folks off, imo, about the La7 and and other planes of the big 5 is that they are equalizers.  Folks with medium skills can compete with the "uber" pilots.  The "uber" pilots should not be losing to those dweeb pilots.  Perk that damn plane, so I can dominate like I know I should be!!!1!

[Karnak]

Furious,

No, what irritates me about the La-7 is that it makes it an exercise in frusteration to use my favorite aircraft.  I am, at best, slightly above average in skill, and that means that if I meet an enemy La-7 I am pretty much dead.  It is the rare La-7 pilot who manages to lose to me.

Yet there is no penalty that he pays for that performance and no reward that I get for taking an aircraft that is so massively out classed.

Even the Typhoon and P-51D do not dominate the way the La-7 does.

Because of the ever increasing average speed of the AH MA, driven by the La-7 and P-51D in particular, I am less and less inclined to spend time in AH.

The aircraft I like do not do 370+mph on the deck and they do not do 450mph at best altitude.


As the MA migrates away from N1K2-Js and Spitfire Mk IXs it also ceases to be enjoyable for a lot of people.  For example, I took a Ki-61-I-Tei up a week ago and went through 70% internal fuel and then RTB'd without using all of the Ki-61's pathetic ammo load.  The sector was quite active, but all the enemy aicraft (besides one wave of P-40s, of which I got one) were going 400+mph constantly.  I never even had an oportunity to engage.

Because there are so few aircraft that move in those speed ranges it really forces players, if they want to be able to engage, to pick a P-51B, P-51D, La-7, Fw190D-9, Bf109G-10 or Typhoon Mk Ib and if you're not a fan of one of those, suck it up.

[Furious]

We are then asking HTC to lower the bar so that the older/slower planes can compete.  Is that what we want?  Newbs in crap planes, with no chance to survive, because some want to fly the "lesser" planes and not be disadvantaged?

[Karnak]

I'm just saying that, for me, the 1945 super fighter MA is less appealing than a 1943 MA where you need different aircraft for different jobs.  Has nothing to do with "newbs".

For me.

HTC will do what they will do.

[Urchin]

Why not raise the bar even more?  Surely newbies will have more success and die less if they are allowed to fly the Me262 for free.  Bet it would be a lot more fun too.

[DoctorYO]

I say to get HTC's attention.. all the aces that hate the LA7 (Dweeb Seven) (Rocket7) (El Gay 7 "personal favorite with richard simmons motif...)  Should fly it and skull **** everyone in the main for a entire tour...

when the medium K/D reaches 20+ then HTC will take notice like they did with equally dweeby f4C model.. (its really sad because imo the LA7 makes the C model look like a cupcake...)

Thats all they will understand complete unbalancing taken to the second power...

That my suggestion..

Infact im considering the Gay 7 as my ride of choice for a tour..  For the clowns like shane and friends that can barely handle me in a d11...

suggestions......


DoctorYo

[SlapShot]

when the medium K/D reaches 20+ then HTC will take notice like they did with equally dweeby f4C model..

I think that it will take more than that to get HTC's attention. From what I understand, the CHog was not only flown by alot of people, but it also scored and incredible amount of deaths.

According to all the latest reports, the skies are already full of La-7s, so adding a few more (dedicated vets) pilots to the mix might up the K/D, but I don't believe enough to get the results that would match the CHog.

[g00b]

My guess is HT and crew are lauging there arse's off at the noobs whining about the LA7. What's next? Perk the G10? Perk the 51? Perk those damn spits? Give it up guys.

Maybe you should fly the LA7 for a tour. Maybe you'll get sick of it enough to realize it aint all that.

There is only one outstanding "truth" to this whole stupid thread. The LA7 isn't gay, as a matter of fact, no plane is gay, only the people who whine about them are.

Here's some real data for you whiners

Levithn
55 Kills of La-7
18 Deaths by La-7

kbman
73 Kills of La-7
8 Deaths by La-7

shane
57 Kills of La-7
27 Deaths by La-7

fauxbra
52 Kills of La-7
32 Deaths by La-7

furious
23 Kills of La-7
6 Deaths by La-7

g00b
74 Kills of La-7
21 Deaths by La-7

Delirium
22 Kills of La-7
2 Deaths by La-7



Just a random x-section of decent players. It aint the plane boys. Maybe we should arrange a class on how to beat a LA7?

g00b

[Urchin]

Leviathn - Spitfire

Kbman- Chog, with the La-7 a distant 2nd

Shane - La7

Fauxbra - La7, Typhoon

Furious - La5

Goob - F4U, La7

Delirium - P-38


I'd be interested in seeing how Delirium does so well against the La7 in the P-38, although I suspect I know the answer.

Other than that, what have you proven?  That you need another La, or some Mk-10H's and you'll win?

Oh... and I've flown it enough to know exactly how superior it is to everything else... but then again I'm not so delusional to think that being the wonderful ace "Urchin" has more of an impact on a fight than the plane I am in.

[thrila]

G00b, I don't see how by posting stats of peoples k/d against a plane concludes that the plane isn't superior to others.  They have a high k/d against al planes.

Did you check to see which plane was the bigest killer of them?   All but 2 of them it is the la7, it is the 2nd killer for the other 2.            

I've never been one for perking the la7, but it is obvious it is the the best plane for the MA.

[Karnak]

Boy, Urchin and I sure are "n00bs".

Why, we both just found this game and here we are spouting off without ever really giving it a try or allowing enough time to get to know the variety it offers.

Urchin, I can't imagine what we were thinking.  We'd better wait until we've been here for a year or so.

[Pongo]

I aggree with the parallel of the 3 gun la7 and the Hog c.

[g00b]

Come on guys, I know you're not noobs. However I find it ironic that urchin and karnaks plane of choice is the G-10 and 51d respectively.  The LA7 is probably the biggest threat to those planes. Almost as fast with better turning. Even so, both of you are  keeping a better than 1-1 ratio against the la7.

I'm not trying to prove that the LA7 isn't a good airplane, I'm just trying to prove that good sticks have little problem with them. I didn't look for pilots with good stats, I just punched in the first couple a' people's name's I could remember.

The LA7 was made to excel at low alt. The 51 and G10 for high-alt. Take them out of their environment and they lose the advantage. The LA7 is not a better plane per se, it's better for the types of engagements that most of the MA participates in. It's purely voluntary however. If everyone in the MA decided to start to start flying at realistic alts the LA7 would lose it's edge.

I don't support perking aircraft based on the whims and trends of the MA.

Let the aircraft be rated on their collective strengths. As they are now.

[Karnak]

Originally posted by g00b
Come on guys, I know you're not noobs. However I find it ironic that urchin and karnaks plane of choice is the G-10 and 51d respectively.

To the best of my knowledge, Urchin is an Fw190A guy and I certainly am neither a P-51D or Bf109G-10 guy.  I spent most of my time in the Mossie.  Not that I play much anymore.

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