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Offline XtrmeJ

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« Reply #195 on: July 12, 2004, 08:41:20 PM »
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None of you bastards are fit company anyway. Hornets are the best there is. No squadron I've ever had the pleasure to fly with has ever had so much fun, been such outstanding sports, and still been able to lead all you turds in tour after tour.

Berating me doesn't hurt them. It doesn't hurt me, either. I see you guys for the worthless fugs you are. My skin can easily withstand your ****.

But, thanks for hijacking yet another thread. Your efforts to reduce the desire for larger maps into another rant against ancient ****ing history has been noted.

You may now resume your sucking on Fester's anatomy.


I have always thought the Hornets were cool guys. Bragging about your squad leading everyone in each tour is just wrong. Seems I was just tied with you 2 days ago when I was ranked 1. And my squad and yours usually go back and forth for the #1 spot. Hornets are great guys, all are very cool. No need to go about talking about how your squad "leads all you turds tour after tour". I don't agree with berating  the Hornets, but I see why ppl do it in this thread. Bragging just leads to trouble. As I said earlier tho, all the Hornets are great guys/sticks, I don't have anything against any of you.

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« Reply #196 on: July 12, 2004, 08:42:30 PM »
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I'll have to disagree, small engagements really suffer ( < 5v5)

 I enjoy finding the little fights in my jug or hog, and I just don't see them on the small maps at all without 12 more high spitfires reaching it before it's conclusion. Conversely, I could always find a furball even on Bigisles and AKdesert. I also still see enourmous value in the existence of undefended fields for newer players. Milkrunning can be a step in learning the game and should be possible for those that take that step.

  Fester's current maps are fine because they're still 512 maps with enough room and fields that the small fights can spawn.


While what you say about new players may be true to a certain extent there are some problems. Firstly, the small maps may have the inescapable furball syndrome during the few hours of Prime-Time US time. However, during any other period, the other 20 hours of the day, smaller engagements are the norm. On HUGE maps furballs are a rare sight, and if they due appear they tend to last only a brief time and only during that same peak 3 to 4 hour time period. So, the other 20 hours of the daily play cycle the map is totally devoid of any meaningfull large scale engagements. While this is fine for people who exclusively play during prime-time US time, think of the European/Asian players and those with non-traditional work schedules here in the US. HUGE maps completely rob them of gameplay opportunities.

While I have no doubt some newbies come to AH and find they wish to learn to bomb stuff, or avoid enemy to learn in peace, I have to believe the vast majority are drawn to AH for the lure of Air Combat as is advertised by HTC. Small maps are far more conducive to finding immediate fights that require little 'down-time' (therefore more fighting opportunities per unit time and opportunities to learn more quickly). I am a very very experienced player and even I can fly around for 30+ minutes looking for something to fight on huge maps. A newbie is not going to have much tolerance for this kind of down-time.

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« Reply #197 on: July 12, 2004, 08:46:32 PM »
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I still find it amusing that an area bigger than Wisconsin is considered "too small" for 300-600 people.  

J_A_B


 If wisconson only had 10 valid targets for a constant 300-600 combat planes it would indeed be too small.

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« Reply #198 on: July 12, 2004, 08:53:32 PM »
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Jackal, I went back and read the posts. OK, you didn't bash the Hornets. I edited the picture for ya. Zazen gets and extra towel now. If you and Meta have a problem, he is a big enough boy to take care of you by himself.
 


Thank ya sir. :D
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« Reply #199 on: July 12, 2004, 09:04:33 PM »
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I am a very very experienced player and even I can fly around for 30+ minutes looking for something to fight on huge maps.


  I'll have to take you on a tour and teach you how to locate a fight then, I have no trouble finding something in less than 5 minutes.

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« Reply #200 on: July 12, 2004, 09:11:32 PM »
Whineometer.
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Still no answer from Zazen to Sirloin's challenge.

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« Reply #201 on: July 12, 2004, 09:46:26 PM »
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I'll have to take you on a tour and teach you how to locate a fight then, I have no trouble finding something in less than 5 minutes.


You should hold a class and charge tutition, because hundreds of people have the same problem on maps like Pizza Map. You'll be a very wealthy Boozer... :aok

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« Reply #202 on: July 12, 2004, 10:02:13 PM »
ok then, either

a: more small maps with better designed terrains allowing better GV wars (ie not 80% steep hills etc etc)

b: more maps that are 512 BUT have alot of "waste" around the edges, fester did this well on his maps.......



right now, my problems are:

a: we've been on this same freaking island map for 2 weeks now, sure its the best small map but 2 weeks?!!?!?!

b: not enough maps (dont care on size, just want more choice

c: not enough players

and well all this is down to AHII....... ;)
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« Reply #203 on: July 12, 2004, 10:15:01 PM »
Zazen doesn't want a fight. Zazen is a text buffer and bbs dweeb. Check what he flies and how frequently he kills. He's peripheral at best, and a rook.

Fights are low, usually below 5k and don't require hordes. Zazen is ill-suited for this. What he really wants is large groups of his own guys fighting lots of enemies so he can cherry off the horde.

Check it out anytime he's online. He's filling the buffer with rants and insults. I believe I actually saw him come down to 20k once, but he ran because atilla and I were not flying level and got within 10k of him once. :D

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« Reply #204 on: July 12, 2004, 10:30:58 PM »
voss you just don't get the fact that no one cares what your score is but you and no one cares if you can fly well or not. they never will. yet you keep posting tails of your great exploits thinking anyone is interested other than yourself.
Fester was my in game name until September 2013

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« Reply #205 on: July 12, 2004, 10:37:42 PM »
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« Reply #206 on: July 12, 2004, 11:18:32 PM »
This thread is still buzzin?! Hell ... it's like someone kicked a hornet's nest. :lol

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« Reply #207 on: July 12, 2004, 11:27:45 PM »
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This thread is still buzzin?! Hell ... it's like someone kicked a hornet's nest. :lol


I'm guilty as charged! Starting forest fires now and then is good, keeps things interesting :aok

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« Reply #208 on: July 12, 2004, 11:31:48 PM »
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ok then, either

a: more small maps with better designed terrains allowing better GV wars (ie not 80% steep hills etc etc)

b: more maps that are 512 BUT have alot of "waste" around the edges, fester did this well on his maps.......



right now, my problems are:

a: we've been on this same freaking island map for 2 weeks now, sure its the best small map but 2 weeks?!!?!?!

b: not enough maps (dont care on size, just want more choice

c: not enough players

and well all this is down to AHII....... ;)


People in AH are spoiled, we had same map in AWFR for many years.
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« Reply #209 on: July 12, 2004, 11:38:03 PM »
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voss you just don't get the fact that no one cares what your score is but you and no one cares if you can fly well or not. they never will. yet you keep posting tails of your great exploits thinking anyone is interested other than yourself.


It's pattern sociopathic behavior, Fester. I could write my doctoral thesis in Psychology on Metapotato's various and sundry nuerosis. But, alas, the horrific trauma from delving into the tragically warped mind of such a morally depraved individual would undoubtedly drive me to blow a gaping hole through the back of my head.:rofl

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