Author Topic: My take on female leadership (Read 5744 times)

Sandman · « **Reply #60 on:** July 11, 2004, 10:35:52 PM »

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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Thats not really true, leadership can be learned. Here is a very good book all of you should read to improve your leadership skills.

Having been in the military, I've had a considerable amount of training on leadership.

I've met people that wore it like a second skin. I've also met people that couldn't lead their way out of a paperbag.

I'll agree that training can make you a more effective leader, though.

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #61 on:** July 11, 2004, 10:44:17 PM »

I've met people that wore it like a second skin. I've also met people that couldn't lead their way out of a paperbag.

Do you attribute that to birth?

Sandman · « **Reply #62 on:** July 11, 2004, 10:46:30 PM »

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Do you attribute that to birth?

Birth or the way they were brought up. They didn't get it out of a book or a training session at work.

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #63 on:** July 11, 2004, 11:00:29 PM »

And what exactly is "the way they were brought up?" Thats simply learning.

And the whole point of books or training is to help people gain new learning they may not have been exposed to before.

You cant simply say leaders are born when you also include their life experiences and life learning as sources of leadership skills..

If leadership can be learned then leadership can be taught.

Sandman · « **Reply #64 on:** July 11, 2004, 11:03:39 PM »

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And what exactly is "the way they were brought up?" Thats simply learning.

Nothing simple about it. If it were, there wouldn't be so many parenting books.

Sandman · « **Reply #65 on:** July 11, 2004, 11:04:51 PM »

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If leadership can be learned then leadership can be taught.

Believe what you will. I've never seen this happen to an adult.

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #66 on:** July 11, 2004, 11:05:25 PM »

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Nothing simple about it. If it were, there wouldn't be so many parenting books.

Good joke.

But then are you saying that leadership is hereditary if it takes specially born "leadership" parents to first sire a good leader and then give him/her the proper bringing up?

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #67 on:** July 11, 2004, 11:07:10 PM »

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Originally posted by Sandman
Having been in the military, I've had a considerable amount of training on leadership.

I've met people that wore it like a second skin. I've also met people that couldn't lead their way out of a paperbag.

I'll agree that training can make you a more effective leader, though.

The army must disagree Sandman.. And apparently you do too.

Sandman · « **Reply #68 on:** July 11, 2004, 11:07:19 PM »

I'll repeat... "Birth or the way they were brought up."

By the time you're adult, I think it's too late.

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #69 on:** July 11, 2004, 11:09:37 PM »

What do you consider the qualities that born leaders are born with?

Sandman · « **Reply #70 on:** July 11, 2004, 11:09:55 PM »

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The army must disagree Sandman.. And apparently you do too.

The U.S. military wants everyone to grow as leaders. If you don't, they'll process you out.

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #71 on:** July 11, 2004, 11:10:49 PM »

Grow as leaders? You mean learn new leadership skills?

Sandman · « **Reply #72 on:** July 11, 2004, 11:15:04 PM »

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Grow as leaders? You mean learn new leadership skills?

No... take on more authority and responsibility.

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #73 on:** July 11, 2004, 11:17:41 PM »

So you have never seen an adult either gain new leadership skills or take on additinal responsibilities after training?

That seems bizzare..

Sandman · « **Reply #74 on:** July 11, 2004, 11:18:44 PM »

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So you have never seen an adult either gain new leadership skills or take on additinal responsibilities after training?

That seems bizzare..

Bizzare, because I never said that.