Author Topic: Kerry Declines Security Briefings? (Read 1451 times)

lazs2 · « **Reply #30 on:** July 13, 2004, 09:05:54 AM »

Is it my imagination or has nash lost his creative edge along with his sense of humor?

seems all that is left is an avatar... kinda sad.

lazs

Dead Man Flying · « **Reply #31 on:** July 13, 2004, 09:10:08 AM »

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Originally posted by Martlet
What does that have to do with anything? Are you implying that unless I've run for president, I'm unqualified to have an opinion on what I expect from a candidate?

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No, that's not what I'm implying.

-- Todd/Leviathn

Eagler · « **Reply #32 on:** July 13, 2004, 09:10:52 AM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
Is it my imagination or has nash lost his creative edge along with his sense of humor?

seems all that is left is an avatar... kinda sad.

lazs

nash was an arse then he saw the light

too bad the bulb seems to have burned out , throwing him back into the darkness

JUST SAY NO

Nash · « **Reply #33 on:** July 13, 2004, 09:11:49 AM »

If I had a nickel for every time someone said I've lost "my edge"... If only I knew what that meant...

I'll try harder lazs I swear.

Yeager · « **Reply #34 on:** July 13, 2004, 09:24:03 AM »

After watching that LarryKing show interviewing kerry and edwards I have found that sitting next to each other, working as a team, they do not compliment each other at all. Maybe they are too new to each other at this point but my sense is they honestly distrust each other.

Charon · « **Reply #35 on:** July 13, 2004, 10:48:01 AM »

I would hazard a guess that the intel in the briefing would low level stuff like you would provide to the press or to Congress in general (as opposed to even a select foreign affairs/military related committee). It would be irresponsible now to do otherwise from a security standpoint, unlike the situation when someone becomes a "president elect.”

If I were on the Bush campaign staff here is how I would play it:

1. Make the offer.

a. Kerry accepts -- seat him at a desk (maybe even a high school desk that is too small

) with bad lighting. In front of him is a cartoon map of the Middle East. The briefer is some kid in his early 20s. Snap lots of pictures to show how unpresidential and out of the loop candidate Kerry is. Maybe even incorporate these into a future campaign ad.

b. Kerry declines -- point out his lack of interest in foreign policy with a touch of smugness or outrage thrown in by your agents pushing the item through select media sources.

Which would you choose as candidate Kerry?

Charon

lazs2 · « **Reply #36 on:** July 13, 2004, 11:07:02 AM »

as I recall... klinton was briefed when he ran against Bush senior. He found time to attend. It is somewhat traditional.

charon is probly right tho.. they are no doubt low level briefings.

lazs

Charon · « **Reply #37 on:** July 13, 2004, 11:26:09 AM »

I wonder, Lazs, if that was during the campaign of after he won as president elect (which is common for such briefings).

As long as Kerry controlled the cameras he could spin it I suppose. Go into a room, come out of a room, say: "There wasn't much new there, but I want to be as prepared as possible when I become president in January." Still, this turns over initiative to the other side and he probably doesn't have time at this point in the campaign to even play that angle.

Charon

lazs2 · « **Reply #38 on:** July 13, 2004, 11:45:46 AM »

As I recall it was before the elections with klinton and that klinton played it like it was an admission that he was going to be the next pres. and too important to not be brought up to speed.

lazs

muckmaw · « **Reply #39 on:** July 13, 2004, 12:11:23 PM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
As I recall it was before the elections with klinton and that klinton played it like it was an admission that he was going to be the next pres. and too important to not be brought up to speed.

lazs

And THATS the way to play it.

Kerry's Camp dropped the ball on this one.

Pongo · « **Reply #40 on:** July 13, 2004, 03:21:26 PM »

Lol I wondered what happend to this thread!
Gtora.
When I start seeing simular posts from you directed at all such attacks from all quadrents of the political compass I will feel bad and chastised.
until then. The thread was so stupid that it only deserved an attack. I know..its unsettling to see a "liberal" attacking..that is the normal preserve of "conservatives".

Funky..you wish.
Unless you mean when udie said..."I know you are but what am I"

The important white house security briefing was the one where the outgoing clinton administration told Bush that the bigest threat to US security was Bin Ladins orginisation and Bush said to himself.."oh ya..I have to have the bin ladins over again for BBQ soon."

But what is the use of debating such silly subjects with the thread starters..You are free to if you like gtora

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #41 on:** July 13, 2004, 03:41:01 PM »

Micheal Moore has trained you well Pongo! Booosh allowed the 911 attacks because he has ties to Bin Laden's huge family of some 50 siblings...

Good job! Now where did I put the treat?

Lizking · « **Reply #42 on:** July 13, 2004, 04:08:53 PM »

Kerry is a high ranking Senator, in all honesty, and if he was actually attending Congress, I would say that he didn't need the briefings. He is not, however, so he should at least take the offered intelligence.

Clinton was NOT in the Senate, and did the right thing by taking them.

There are some things that the candidates should know, regardless of the acrimony, both to keep from looking foolish by not knowing something, and also to show that he is involved.

Pongo · « **Reply #43 on:** July 13, 2004, 04:33:44 PM »

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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Micheal Moore has trained you well Pongo! Booosh allowed the 911 attacks because he has ties to Bin Laden's huge family of some 50 siblings...

Good job! Now where did I put the treat?

See glora?

GH. Are you saying that Bush was not warned about the threat posed by ABL by the departing Clinton team?

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #44 on:** July 13, 2004, 04:39:16 PM »

I'm saying your assertion that Bush ignored terrorism because his family is friends with the huge bin laden family to be pretty dumb. Not to mention straight out of Michael Moore's brainwashing propaganda movie.