ONCE AGAIN I CANT PLAY its getting OLD

[hblair]

SOB, Creamo, twist PaPa Gordo and Daddy Fattys arms.  

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Switch sides huh?

Bishops 34
Knights 31
Rooks   26

Ok, I take my 5 guys and go bishop...

Bishops 39
Knights 31
Rooks   21

Did I miscalculate? That looks worse than before to me.

Getting organized isn't that simple. First, you gotta have more than a handful of pilots who give a damn about being organized.

Sure, we could all just throw our hands in the air and join all you guys and be on the winning side, my score would be a lot better, thats fer sure. But then we would have a 2 sided arena, I don't think thats what HT has in mind.  

Like I said, not whining, just pointing out the problem.

[hblair]

That last post sounded kinda negative. Just to clarify, I'm looking forward to logging on tonight and trying to turn this thing around again.   Just wish somebody would muzzle glasses.  

[SKurj]

I think the point was this Hb.

If player A logs in at 12pm on lets say a daily basis, and whenever he does, he finds his team badly outnumbered and nowhere to grab any alt, or even lets say hes a buff pilot.

He logs into  relax and have some fun, but flying for country c he can't get in his plane without there being enemy aircraft overhead.  This is not what he logged in for.  If he doesn't have any squad affiliation, its time he changed countries so that he can get his enjoyment.

If a squad or group of guys get sick of it, change countries and as a group fight the other large team doing the gangbanging, simple as that.

We fly for fun, some take their fun from doing base suppression, some from hi alt cap.  Its all about your entertainment and your money.  You spend $30 a month, why pay your $30 a month to be gangbanged?  You can ALWAYS change sides and get your fix.  

Watch the boards, every team has been in the gangbang bucket (lower right side of the map) since 1.05 came out, and will be again.

AKskurj

[Westy]

 A subscription to AH does not include injections of 'smarts'.

-Westy

[PakRat]

Sometimes, when a country is being beat down to only a couple of fields, a lot of the guys in the aggressor country decide that they should ease up on the poor souls - leaving them in that state when going for the reset is really the more humane thing to do.

And the radio lights up with bleating about "go beat up on somebody else", "vultures", "always fighting a two-front war", etc.

So the country down to two bases stays at two bases. Needs to be some kind of incentive to put them out of their misery because it is a bad situation.

Capturing the really big bases is tough and just adds to this situation because those are generally the kind that hold out to the bitter end.

I'd just change sides if there was no hope.

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Rape, pillage, then burn...

[Jimdandy]

There's no way to promote team play if everyone just switches sides when it gets ruff. What, in the end we end up with one big team roving the map taking bases with no resistance. I think someone had a good solution that might help. Give perk points for participating in a mission. I'm also still of a mind that only having two teams would help. If you have 200 people on you have 100 vs 100. With three teams it is more likely to end up with 130 vs 60. I know that during certain times of the day the odds for 2 team play could be lopsided but I think on average it might be less than the over 2 to 1 odds above. There's got to be a math major out there who can prove me right or wrong   Someone check it out and show me the calculation on this one that hasn't been away from college for 8 years like me.   (You don't use it you lose it   )

[AKDejaVu]

It sucks to get in that position.  A good thing to do when it does happen is to ask everyone that is in your country squeaking about how they can't take off "Just how did this happen?"

At some point.. you had more bases.  At some point.. those bases were taken.  At some point.. most of your country was probably flying back and forth fighting an endless stream of fighters coming out of a cv group while the group leveled the base.

I've seen so many throw strategy out the window because of the ever present furballs that the cvs bring with them, that this doesn't suprise me at all.

AKDejaVu

[danish]

A lot of players seems interested in these perk points - and just wait untill there really *is* a reward waiting in the end..

So: I think HT suggested at some time (or Pyro maybe..) that they are thinking of adding bonus score for the hard pressed country.That would help no doubt.

Untill then: Being the underdog and loosing the war is ok.Being left with 2 fields and a bunch of spraying dweebs isnt.

danish

[CavemanJ]

Skurj, if a guy has decided he's going to be loyal to one country for all eternity who are you to tell him to change countries to enjoy his flight time?  BTW, thanks for finally admitting the knights no longer have the testicular fortitude to push a reset.

It would be nice if the arena reset one a country was left with only 2 air fields.

Leph there's a slight problem with getting organized when you're down to only 2 fields.  The vulchers who are looking for easy points.  They'll hang around the only 2 fields a country has, and since that country has no radar either they dinnae if a couple of bandits are waiting 1 sector over to swoop in and bounce a mission taking off.

Gonna be awfully interesting to see if something like lower cost/free perk kites are given to a country in that position.  The 'hold a base to 2 bases and vulch' syndrom will get worse, since the vulchers will get tons of points catching the perk kites lifting off.

[Westy]

"...if a guy has decided he's going to be loyal to one country for all eternity...."

 In which case he should stand by his choice like a man and quit belly aching when things don't go his way.

  -Westy

[Regurge]

 

Originally posted by AKDejaVu:
It sucks to get in that position.  A good thing to do when it does happen is to ask everyone that is in your country squeaking about how they can't take off "Just how did this happen?"

Well, fighting a 2-front war and being outnumbered 2 to 1 on both sides has alot to do with it.

The losing country in a reset ought to be given the top position on the map by default. The two lower positions (they seem identical to me) are stuck having to duke it out with the southern cv groups until one side just overwhelms the other.

[Jigster]

A free ICBM for every field lost on the main island  

[Sunchaser]

I LOV....err sorta like FDBs.

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When did they put this thing in here and WTF is it for?

[Raider_DD]

Help me understand the reluctance to issue a coup de grace.  If the reason is sportsmanship, it is certainly misplaced.

Each country should get a statistical acknowledgement for re-setting the board.  And a Q-pie doll at the end of the tour.

I am not really in favor of perks for this and perks for that.  Too prone to human errors and acts of well-meant, but nonetheless bad, judgement.  It's too complex.

Conan said:

"Crush your enemies, drive them before you, hear the lamentations of their women"

Cut from the Conan movie was this little known epithet:

"And reset the arena!"

Conan was a big strong guy that could kick all our asses.  I think we should listen to him, don't you?

The behavior we want would support unconditional victories and then a 'start over'.  Don't cave in with a bunch of watered down, make-it-equal bullcrap.

If you take an enemy to the brink, you should honor him with a quick dispatch.

But I don't have an opinion.

Raider

[Jigster]

My favorite solution for "winning the war"

In the present map, whoever won would get the same amount of land that we get now when a reset occurs. For the other two, they start back at their main islands and the fields normally given to them are turned neutral with ack that fires on everyone. This would get the pressure off the other countries for a while, and whoever coordinates better well get more land. Of course, the winning country gets an intial advantage giving and incentive to go for the reset.

Wouldn't be well suited for non-peak hours though.