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« Reply #30 on: July 20, 2004, 08:09:59 AM »
the klinton admin is still loseing sensitive documents?   Maybe hillary just moved em or something?

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« Reply #31 on: July 20, 2004, 09:10:56 AM »
Its really gonna be a hoot in here when Hillary gets elected.

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« Reply #32 on: July 20, 2004, 09:54:50 AM »
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Its really gonna be a hoot in here when Hillary gets elected.


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« Reply #33 on: July 20, 2004, 12:21:58 PM »
most recent reports say whats missing are copies of origional report. sounds to me like he violated procedures but i dont think he was trying to cover anything up.

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« Reply #34 on: July 20, 2004, 12:25:33 PM »
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Its really gonna be a hoot in here when Hillary gets elected.



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« Reply #35 on: July 20, 2004, 01:34:33 PM »
"Berger and his lawyer said Monday night he knowingly removed the handwritten notes by placing them in his jacket, pants and socks, and also inadvertently took copies of actual classified documents in a leather portfolio."

Can you imaging the hissy fit libs would be having if this was a Republican. "INDEPENDENT  COUNSEL" they would be yelling Kerry Kennecy Hillary would be scream Bush KNEW and when. Damn the conspiracy theories would be fling,
Bush loves USB, he hid the docs, Bush blew up the towers etc. Moore would be having an O gasim over it. It would lead every nightly news cast for weeks.
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« Reply #36 on: July 20, 2004, 02:45:38 PM »
His socks!  Blahahahahahah!

Yup, the demstudmuffinliberalpusses would be screaming from the highest mountain about how Bush is trying to cover something up and when the world ends 7 billion years from now, it's Bush's fault.
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« Reply #37 on: July 20, 2004, 04:38:41 PM »
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most recent reports say whats missing are copies of origional report. sounds to me like he violated procedures but i dont think he was trying to cover anything up.


You're missing the point.  These were classified documents.  To remove them and store them improperly and without authorization is a security incident.  To do it knowingly, and to share them with unauthorized personnel (IF he did) is a Federal offense.  When you have a clearance, you receive training every year on handling of classified (which is marked top/bottom and front/back in red block letters, copy or original).  Furthermore, any hand-written notes made from a classified source automatically becomes classfied at the level of the source.  Sandy Burgler, er, Berger know this.

While I can believe someone accidently walking out with a classified document, shuffled together with unclassifed documents in his portfolio, it is still incredibly negligent.  Stuffing his notes into his pants, jacket, and socks (yes, his socks) is a damning indictment of willful misconduct.  At the very least his clearance should be immediately pulled (that's what would happen to me) while the investigation was conducted.  Has this happened?  Not according to any reports I've seen.
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« Reply #38 on: July 20, 2004, 05:28:43 PM »
That looks very serios. Think he will go to jail?

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« Reply #39 on: July 20, 2004, 05:29:51 PM »
Not TOP SECRET, they were code-word, which is the highest level of security.  This is a coverup of the greatest magnitude,  and it was done willfully and with intent.

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« Reply #40 on: July 20, 2004, 05:42:13 PM »
What's the Big Deal......?   I accidentally put things in my socks all the time.   Give the guy a break....

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« Reply #41 on: July 20, 2004, 05:45:21 PM »
Steve!! get back in the MA dangit!!  :mad:

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« Reply #42 on: July 20, 2004, 07:21:38 PM »
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That looks very serios. Think he will go to jail?


Uh, no, he has already been pardoned. Along with a lot of other criminals, some of which allegedly bought those pardons. Do a search on pardongate if you wanna see America at it's lowest.
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« Reply #43 on: July 21, 2004, 12:57:32 PM »
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What's the Big Deal......?   I accidentally put things in my socks all the time.   Give the guy a break....



LOL

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« Reply #44 on: July 21, 2004, 01:04:42 PM »
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You're missing the point.  These were classified documents.  To remove them and store them improperly and without authorization is a security incident.  To do it knowingly, and to share them with unauthorized personnel (IF he did) is a Federal offense.  When you have a clearance, you receive training every year on handling of classified (which is marked top/bottom and front/back in red block letters, copy or original).  Furthermore, any hand-written notes made from a classified source automatically becomes classfied at the level of the source.  Sandy Burgler, er, Berger know this.

While I can believe someone accidently walking out with a classified document, shuffled together with unclassifed documents in his portfolio, it is still incredibly negligent.  Stuffing his notes into his pants, jacket, and socks (yes, his socks) is a damning indictment of willful misconduct.  At the very least his clearance should be immediately pulled (that's what would happen to me) while the investigation was conducted.  Has this happened?  Not according to any reports I've seen.


nah didnt miss a point i think you misunderstood me. i have a clearance to. he needs to be busted for what he did but people saying its part of some scheme to hide what clinton did i doubt that. as for stuffing things in socks if thats still being reported in three weeks then ill believe it happened. i dont think highly of the guy and i didnt when he was working for clinton and i was active duty military. but im pretty skeptical when it comes to conspiracys. everyone thinks theyre the reincarnation of woodward and bernstein these days.