Author Topic: Socialism (Read 1959 times)

beet1e · « **Reply #60 on:** July 22, 2004, 10:51:04 AM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
I don't have 600 people in line in front of me to go to the dentist as I heard was common in england say.

Come on, Lazs. That's bollocks and I think you know it.

I schedule my appointments every six months. I make the appointment for the next visit on the way out. I turn up at the appointed time and get seen straight away. The waiting room has seating for about 8 people - kind of hard to imagine 600 people in there.

Still, very few dentists are NHS these days. Mine isn't.

Lizking · « **Reply #61 on:** July 22, 2004, 11:13:24 AM »

What if you break a tooth, Beetle, cosmetically or to the root. How long before you are in the office? Same day for me.

beet1e · « **Reply #62 on:** July 22, 2004, 11:27:48 AM »

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Originally posted by Lizking
What if you break a tooth, Beetle, cosmetically or to the root. How long before you are in the office? Same day for me.

It's never happened to me, so I just called my dentist's office to find out. Emergency treatment is available on a same day basis. An emergency would exist if the patient was in pain, or a condition existed that would lead to rapid degradation of a tooth. The scenario you describe would qualify as an emergency. Otherwise an appointment would be needed - possibly 1-2 weeks.

My mother broke a filling once, many years ago. Our dentist lived in the same street and took her up to the surgery in his own car - and that was a Saturday afternoon.

Nilsen · « **Reply #63 on:** July 22, 2004, 11:28:39 AM »

What GS said. Our goverment is oriented pretty far to the right now... That will prolly change after the next election tho because sertain things that the present goverment has done. We will see.... lots can change from not til then.

I have always woted for "right" as the party is called and as you can prolly understand, they are pretty far to the righ side in our system. Im not sure that i will vote for them this time tho.

_Schadenfreude_ · « **Reply #64 on:** July 22, 2004, 12:20:17 PM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
neilson... call the gun store.. simple enough. let me know what they tell you.

How much for a good mexican dinner?

Video card?

How much for an edlebrock air gap performer RPM intake manifold for a Chevy big block with oval ports?

No? let's turn it around then...

Name one thing that is better in your country besides snow skiing.

lazs

How much will a kidney transplant cost or say 3 years of college education?

lazs2 · « **Reply #65 on:** July 22, 2004, 01:03:13 PM »

except for the mexican dinner... not seeing any prices here.

No one is turned away with our from hospitals here.

What you guys don't get is that there is no sevice that the government can supply that can't be done better and cheaper through private industry.

My heart surgery cost nothing. well... that is not true.. every service costs something no matter if it is provided by the government or through private bussines.

socialized medicine would be even more unworkable if there were no tort reform. If you had tort reform.... you wouldn't need socialized medicine so... the whole thing is moot.

Also... if there is no more gun control in Germany than there is here then why all the hand wringing about Americans and our guns .... shlortz just told us he could get whatever he wanted... I suppose he could carry it and shoot it anywhere it was safe and keep all his guns in his home... it is legal to defend your property and person with one too I suppose? Fuel is how much in Germany?

lazs

lazs2 · « **Reply #66 on:** July 22, 2004, 01:20:25 PM »

Ok.. you don't live in germany.. it's your devotion to nazi planes that threw me off.

"Things that are better here except skiing: Water quality, air quality in cities, power infrastructure (with no pollution), Internet and communications infrastructure, gasoline quality (but it costs a lot more), health care, social services, education, crime rate, gun control (better both ways), higher salaries, better looking women (), car drivers that can actually drive, police that won't shoot you for petty crimes, fishing, whaling, hunting (arguably) ... can't think of any more right now."

Water quality is better? why is that? we have stricter regulations than you. so, it is something besides government?

Air quality? again... we have at least as strict a regulations as you how is socialism making your air better? Perhaps because you can't afford to drive?

power infrastructure? How does socialism help that?

internet communications? what? isn't it all in jiberish? why are you here then?

health care and social services? no... you are only talking for the average person. People here with insurance get better treatment than you do.

Car drivers that can drive? socialism keeps out asians? or.... maybe you have natural talents? or socialism creates better drivers?

you make socialism work by spreding out the pain. We don't want to do that.

gun control? with our population... your form of gun control would create from 1.5-3 million more crimes a year. Perhaps you are saying that socialism takes all the drive and agression out of people? perhaps that is true. doesn't seem worth it.

lazs

lazs2 · « **Reply #67 on:** July 22, 2004, 01:26:17 PM »

sounds like you have no more gun control than we do (10 day waiting period here) sooo....

If that's the case then how is your gun control better? shorter waiting period?

I also heard you could have silencers. That would be better.

call the gunstore for me and ask em how much for a Kimber eclipse custom 45 acp total all taxes and fees. How bout a box of 45 aco ammo?

lazs

Nilsen · « **Reply #68 on:** July 22, 2004, 01:32:31 PM »

Gun control as in....we have more than you

Nilsen · « **Reply #69 on:** July 22, 2004, 01:58:47 PM »

Hehe, you dont fire blanks do you GS

lazs2 · « **Reply #70 on:** July 22, 2004, 02:10:50 PM »

what gun control? we have to pass a firearms safety test too... Waht gun control do you have that makes you safe from firearms crime??

Are yu saying that our gun control and gun bans are meaningless and that if we had socialism we would need less gun control and bans?

Why would a Kimber cost a bundle? It is just a product and would weigh very little so shipping couldn't be the problem. How bout a remington 700 then? you know, a hunting rifle... how much? How much for a box of 20 30 ought six rifle rounds?

How much for a saab car or Corvette?

What does norway produce?

lazs

Nilsen · « **Reply #71 on:** July 22, 2004, 02:11:26 PM »

never thought id find myself defending socialism after having voted Høyre and FRP on previous elections

I sometimes think that our faaaaar right is the same as the left in the US tho

Holden McGroin · « **Reply #72 on:** July 22, 2004, 02:22:58 PM »

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Originally posted by Nilsen
ALL nations practise socialism...some more than other tho.

I have asked americans several time what they can do that we over here in "socialist" norway cant.....it always boil down to the same thing......nothing.

In the USA I can go outside in January in shorts and a golf shirt and play 18 holes, and still be considered sane. (in AZ anyway) You can't do that in Oslo.

Maybe in 10 or 15 years you will, but not now.

Nilsen · « **Reply #73 on:** July 22, 2004, 02:27:06 PM »

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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
In the USA I can go outside in January in shorts and a golf shirt and play 18 holes, and still be considered sane. (in AZ anyway) You can't do that in Oslo.

Maybe in 10 or 15 years you will, but not now.

Ok....you got me

Nilsen · « **Reply #74 on:** July 22, 2004, 02:36:09 PM »

Check out this shor presentation of norway on my schools website

http://www.bi.no/templates/artikkel____20870.aspx