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Offline Hawklore

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« on: July 27, 2004, 01:18:37 PM »
Ok, I'm not Anti-War, nor am I by any means Pro-Terroist, or Extremist Muslim.

But, I have recently thought that one, under extreme conditions, and fine lines, could call George W. Bush on waging Genocide on the Terroists, or Extremist Muslims.

Websters dictionary defines Genocide as,

:the deliberate and systematic destruction of a racial, political, or cultural group

Now, my dad said that I was running on a very very thin line, and I don't think that line is that thin, although there are definatly good denials of this, I belive, in the long run, thats what he is doing, wrong? Not when it protects the people of the World, and future generations of our children to come.

Is there any logic in my theory?

And God forbid this becomes a rant and rave thread.
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« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2004, 01:25:56 PM »
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Originally posted by Hawklore
And God forbid this becomes a rant and rave thread.


Accusing GWB of committing genocide in any form is gonna start a flamefest...but I think you know that already.  ;)
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« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2004, 01:28:12 PM »
I think maybe you have your analogy completely backwards.
  I don`t know about the "thin line", but that cracking sound you hear is the breaking of thie thin ice you`re standing on.
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Offline Hawklore

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« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2004, 01:30:41 PM »
I'm not accusing bringing up an issue which I have been struggling over..
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« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2004, 01:47:08 PM »
I think in the "purest" sense of the word,  what GWB is doing could be considered genocide.

However, in this case the group being persecuted is also trying to do the same to us.

So in the end it all works out.

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« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2004, 02:01:36 PM »
If you want to bring the term genocide to that pure of forum and description, then I've committed genocide myself when I had a vesectomy.  millions and millions of potential babies are now just sterile swimmers, with no world to grow up in, only to die a miserable death outside the body once ejaculation takes place.

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« Reply #6 on: July 27, 2004, 02:12:56 PM »
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If you want to bring the term genocide to that pure of forum and description, then I've committed genocide myself when I had a vesectomy.  millions and millions of potential babies are now just sterile swimmers, with no world to grow up in, only to die a miserable death outside the body once ejaculation takes place.


:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl  thanks for doing th world a huge favor:lol

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« Reply #7 on: July 27, 2004, 02:14:27 PM »
You were just kidding, right Rip? I mean, I wouldn't want to hurt your feelings......















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« Reply #8 on: July 27, 2004, 03:22:55 PM »
Hawklore....re:  genocide

   Ya know I am going to take you at your word and try to help.

    Any time your mind begins to think about genocide and gwb, remember the picture of 2 large buildings falling.People jumping to their deaths instead of burning,mothers never seeing their little ones growing up.People torn and ripped apart.
   Think of perfect strangers running up the stairs to help fellow human beings,not knowing their color,religion,where they are from nothing, and dieing in the process.
  Then find some pictures of the jews and what some europeans did to them and others. Little kids weighing 30 pounds growen men weighing 85 pounds,13 year old girls experamented on for medical reasons with nothing to stop the pain.Think about 3 million cambodeans killed for no reason. Think about a million blacks today being killed in the sudan because the arabs say they are an inferior race.Understand these people you are afraid gwb is committing genocide against are at this moment buying and selling blacks as slaves.
  If after this you still see anything equal between the two [ [maybe you may even see the bravery both bush and blair have show in the face of a ungratefull world] Then I subment to you you and your father are no better than a dung heap the flies even stay away from.
 Think about it.

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« Reply #9 on: July 27, 2004, 03:34:02 PM »
Yall think I'm attacking GWB, I'm just brining up the Issue..

I belive the fight on Terroism is all for the good, and by no means am I condeming GWB, I was just brining up the Issue.

By no means is he actually commiting Genocide, but some, who are hateful to our country, or the war on terrosim, could see it as that.

Do not attack me nor my father demaw1 I merely stated I was brining up an issue, and asked for you to consider it.

Modas has byfar seen my light, as for the rest I fear have taken it as a threat, and that I condemd GWB.

Demaw1, I fear for you, you call me, in my own mind, unpatriotic, unhuman, and uncaring, which by any means I am none of that, I am, Human, Caring, and by the most Patriotic.
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« Reply #10 on: July 27, 2004, 03:35:18 PM »
:the deliberate and systematic destruction of a racial, political, or cultural group
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ya so?

If a political group called AQ, flys airliners into the two towers and GeeDubya sends the soldiers out to do some good old fashioned "genicide" per your definition, what could possibly be wrong with that?

BTW, AQ is a political group that transcends race and culture.

If its called Genocide and it kills AQ then it is a DAMNED GOOD THING.
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« Reply #11 on: July 27, 2004, 03:38:25 PM »
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:the deliberate and systematic destruction of a racial, political, or cultural group
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ya so?

If a political group called AQ, flys airliners into the two towers and GeeDubya sends the soldiers out to do some good old fashioned "genicide" per your definition, what could possibly be wrong with that?

BTW, AQ is a political group that transcends race and culture.

If its called Genocide and it kills AQ then it is a DAMNED GOOD THING.


I'm not saying AQ isn't commiting Genocide, yall just can't see the light.

Funny how peoples minds are forced into looking at it one way, and not open mindly.
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« Reply #12 on: July 27, 2004, 03:39:39 PM »
If Kerry gets elected will you entertain the same genecide questions when he fights terrorism by killing terrorists? Or do you expect that with Dems in office we will just by default lay down and ask for mercy and forgivness and allow the genecide of americans...

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« Reply #13 on: July 27, 2004, 03:46:18 PM »
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If Kerry gets elected will you entertain the same genecide questions when he fights terrorism by killing terrorists? Or do you expect that with Dems in office we will just by default lay down and ask for mercy and forgivness and allow the genecide of americans...


Of course I'd bring it up when Kerry is in office, anyone in office fighting terroism and targetting the Extremist Muslim Terroists at the moment , or any other religious Terroist group. could fall under genocide, god your people are such idiots.
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Except Modas, cause he seemed to take my post lightly as it was intent to be..
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« Reply #14 on: July 27, 2004, 03:54:14 PM »
Okay Hawk..I'll play.

First of all we need to define some terms.

Is it a genocide being perpetrated against terrorists or extremist musilms?  

Once we establish which we need to go back to Websters and figure out exactly which category of "a racial, political, or cultural group" that answer fits into, if indeed it does.

What EXACTLY is a racial, political group or cultural group according to the book of words?

I don't have a Websters dictionary here, they are all the Oxford variety here in the colonies.  ;)

Racial seems pretty straightforward, but the other two are pretty wide "catch all" terms.
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