Author Topic: Illegal Immigration (Read 1485 times)

elc7367b · « **on:** July 28, 2004, 01:39:02 PM »

Just curious, does anyone out there have any opinions on illegal immigration? Does anybody care? More information to follow depending on responses.

Trell · « **Reply #1 on:** July 28, 2004, 01:47:00 PM »

Well I will bite.

illegal immigration is illegal and i think anyone who tries to immagrate illegaly should be barred from ever becoming a citizin

Sikboy · « **Reply #2 on:** July 28, 2004, 01:56:53 PM »

All immigrants, legal or not, should stop by my office, and pay my boss a hundred bucks to sort it all out.

-Sik

elc7367b · « **Reply #3 on:** July 28, 2004, 02:00:52 PM »

Thanks for responding Trell. I am a Border Patrol Agent and have been dealing with this problem for some time. There are a lot of fine men and women busting their tails to put a dent in this problem all along our border. I am just interested in an informal discussion with those interested concerning the problem and should be able to give some insight to those unfamiliar or unconcerned about what is going on.

Toad · « **Reply #4 on:** July 28, 2004, 02:01:51 PM »

It's a major problem and one that affects the "jobs" situation far up the chain.

Note that both parties really don't want to talk about it or actually do anyting about it.

ra · « **Reply #5 on:** July 28, 2004, 02:05:15 PM »

The way we allow illegal immigrants to roam free is insane. It would be so easy to stem the flow: just start prosecuting those who hire illegal immigrants, nail them with hefty fines. Pretty soon no one would hire them and they would stay on their side of the border. We have poor people of our own who need jobs, we don't need to import even poorer people.

ra

midnight Target · « **Reply #6 on:** July 28, 2004, 02:08:00 PM »

It may be the biggest issue in California today. Some estimate 2 million illegals are in CA as we speak.

The border patrol (12 guys) made sweeps out of the Temecula office recently that netted over 400 illegals. These sweeps were stopped by the Bush administration and the DHS.

I think the Dept. of Homeland Security should help keep our homeland secure.. instead thinking up cool color schemes.

JBA · « **Reply #7 on:** July 28, 2004, 02:14:51 PM »

Put the National Guard on the boarders. And deport those we catch already here. No appeals.

The last number I heard was that 13000 a day cross the boarder.

Hospitals all long the boarders are going bankrupt dealing with the free medical they have to hand out. Soon there will no longer be hospitals for the citizens in these areas.

Toad · « **Reply #8 on:** July 28, 2004, 02:15:33 PM »

It goes beyond that stuff.

Remember the flap about allowing in IT folks because "no qualified US IT people were available"? All the while there were thousands of US IT people getting laid off, unable to find jobs. That's "illegal immigration" the way I see it.

Edbert · « **Reply #9 on:** July 28, 2004, 02:57:16 PM »

http://english.pravda.ru/mailbox/22/101/399/13516_Threat.html

A sobering and scary development is allegedly taking place along the southwest border of the United States.

In Arizona, in the area the many refer to as the Naco Strip, our international border with Mexico has become a primary route of illegal entry by significant numbers of Arab-speaking males. The porous frontier, harried U.S. government officials say, is beginning to look a lot like the left lane on a European Autobahn. It doesn"t take a master spy to conclude that we may be seeing a large-scale influx of al Qaeda terrorists into the country.

http://www.tombstonetumbleweed.com/tombstone/Sections/thisweek/00TWO%20GROUPS%20OF%20MIDDLE-EASTERN%20INVADERS%20CAUGHT%20IN%20COCHISE%20COUNTY%20IN%20PAST%20SIX%20WEEKS.htm

TWO GROUPS OF MIDDLE-EASTERN INVADERS CAUGHT IN COCHISE COUNTY IN PAST SIX WEEKS

Information officer Andy Adame, from the Border Patrol Tucson sector says, I guarantee its not true.

However, seasoned Border Patrol field agents have shared some disturbing information with the Tumbleweed as well as other civilian sources with the hope the information will make it to the general public.

The Tumbleweed has verified information that a flood of middle-eastern males have been caught entering the country illegally east of Douglas, Arizona. The increased patrols in the Huachuca Mountains area of Cochise County, seems to have diverted the flow of OTMs, other than Mexicans east to the Chiricahua Mountains.

Adame, who says many of the agents in the area are green, questions why they would have shared the information with the Tumbleweed or any other source. Our policy is to turn any OTMs over to the FBI and the Department of Homeland Security, Adame said in a phone call made to the Tumbleweed Wednesday morning.

For reasons of National security, Adame said his agency cannot talk about the origin of nationaity, however Adame says that since October 1, 2003, the beginning of the fiscal year for Border Patrol, agents in the Tucson sector have apprehended 5,510 illegals from countries other than Mexico or other central or South American countries. Adame described them as people from all over the world.

In the last month, the Tumbleweed has confirmed at least two documented accounts of Border Patrol agents encountering large groups of non-Spanish speaking males in the Chiricahua foothills and on trails along the high mountain areas.

Bodhi · « **Reply #10 on:** July 28, 2004, 03:06:40 PM »

every illegal should be sent back across the border with a custom collar fitted around their neck. This collar like the one from the Running Man will explode if they ever come across the US border again...

that and increasing the budget to send the existing illegals packing would solve all problems!

Vote for BODHI 2004

type_char · « **Reply #11 on:** July 28, 2004, 03:13:46 PM »

You mean the ilegal mexicans or the ilegal canadians?

Chairboy · « **Reply #12 on:** July 28, 2004, 03:19:20 PM »

I think immigrants are what make this country strong.

Illegal immigrants are essentially cutting in line in front of the people who have made various sacrifices to immigrate legally, and it's just not right.

mietla · « **Reply #13 on:** July 28, 2004, 04:15:21 PM »

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Originally posted by ra
... Pretty soon no one would hire them and they would stay on their side of the border.

Of course not. They'll still stay here but instead of working for low wages they'll furher drain out welfare system.

You have to punish both the employer and the illegal dude, but first and foremost control the border and deny all and any services to illegals already here.

mietla · « **Reply #14 on:** July 28, 2004, 04:19:47 PM »

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Originally posted by Chairboy
I think immigrants are what make this country strong.

Illegal immigrants are essentially cutting in line in front of the people who have made various sacrifices to immigrate legally, and it's just not right.

Agreed. No one is arguing against the immigration per se, but it has to be a controlled process.

1. legal
2. controlled pace of it so we can absorb the influx
3. required assimilation (no services in other languages)
4. dump this idiotic diversity/bilingual education crap and bending over to accommodate groups that want to balkanize this country. You wanna came and live here? Ok, but you have to become an American. If you want to remain Mexican/Cuban/Polish or French stay where you are.