Author Topic: Is Kerry a hero? (Read 4487 times)

mosgood · « **Reply #15 on:** July 28, 2004, 03:08:13 PM »

welp.... Saburo

If you don't call him a hero for doing that, how can you call Pat Tillman a hero? Because he died? Because he gave up money to go fight?

Kerry risked his life to save a comrads life. Does the requirement for being a hero mean that nobody can know? Or is it just that a democrat can't be one?

What about George Bush Sr.?

btw... before everyone pulls a groin muscle rushing to defend Pat Tillman.... I think he a heroic SB as well.

SaburoS · « **Reply #16 on:** July 28, 2004, 03:10:13 PM »

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Originally posted by Hortlund
It has been arranged so he doesnt have to say it himself. His minions do that for him, and all he has to do is say stuff like "when I was in Vietnam" or "when I came back from Vietnam"...that and have a thousand photo ops with his old "war buddies".

You really arent that bright are you Saburo?

Well earlier you inferred he bragged about it. I asked for proof. You obviously couldn't find it so now you go on personal attack mode (which isn't unusual for you, BTW). Hypocrit (two can play at this game).
Funny you state that I'm not that bright (never claimed I was BTW), yet you're the one that made a false statement. What does that make you? Take your choice from:
1) Liar
2) Hypocrit
3) Moron
4) Stupid
Your choice.

mosgood · « **Reply #17 on:** July 28, 2004, 03:11:02 PM »

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Originally posted by Hortlund
Suppose I save someone from drowning. Most would agree that would be a good thing to do, and it would speak well of my character.

Suppose I then hired someone to walk five paces infront of me wherever I go carrying a sign that says "here comes Hortlund, the man who saved someone from drowning". Then I would break into ever conversation I overheard with the words "that reminds me of when I was saving someone from drowning". Would that say anything about my character?

Sooooo.... John Mcain isn't a war hero than... or GB Sr.? they both have had people speak for them in the same way.

midnight Target · « **Reply #18 on:** July 28, 2004, 03:14:07 PM »

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Originally posted by Hortlund

You really arent that bright are you Saburo?

And I have had it with you're BS Hortlund. You really aren't that bright either are you? In fact you are quite stupid aren't you? Why by golly you just might be semi retarded isn't that right?

Richard Cranium!

mosgood · « **Reply #19 on:** July 28, 2004, 03:16:50 PM »

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Originally posted by midnight Target
And I have had it with you're BS Hortlund. You really aren't that bright either are you? In fact you are quite stupid aren't you? Why by golly you just might be semi retarded isn't that right?

Richard Cranium!

I agree. I come to this boards to hear other peoples opinion. Not ingorant crap like that. Hortlund... how old are you? I ask because grownups usually know how to treat other people better.

edit... never mind I'm not interested in hearing anything else you have to say.

Nash · « **Reply #20 on:** July 28, 2004, 03:19:37 PM »

Richard Cranium.... potato peeler.... I like it.

Sandman · « **Reply #21 on:** July 28, 2004, 03:22:10 PM »

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Originally posted by straffo
including the latrine scrubber ?

Absolutely. A war zone is a war zone, even if it has a toilet.

SaburoS · « **Reply #22 on:** July 28, 2004, 03:22:17 PM »

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Originally posted by midnight Target
And I have had it with you're BS Hortlund. You really aren't that bright either are you? In fact you are quite stupid aren't you? Why by golly you just might be semi retarded isn't that right?

Richard Cranium!

NP MT. Funny thing is is that Hortlund really believes he's all that. He doesn't realise that insulting others like he does really shows his weakness. Since he can't prove his point (either by his faulty logic, or an honest mistake), he goes on personal attack mode. He's really lacking in the credibility dept. IMHO.

straffo · « **Reply #23 on:** July 28, 2004, 03:29:50 PM »

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Originally posted by Sandman
Absolutely. A war zone is a war zone, even if it has a toilet.

oups

In fact I was more thinking of the rear echelon

Sandman · « **Reply #24 on:** July 28, 2004, 03:36:26 PM »

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Originally posted by straffo
oups
In fact I was more thinking of the rear echelon

No worries... I was thinking about Navy in particular. We had a few guys that seemed to spend a good amount of their time cleaning up and painting, but when the alarms sounds, they drop the sponges and get to their battle station.

Stringer · « **Reply #25 on:** July 28, 2004, 03:36:34 PM »

hehe...rear echelon...latrines....no pun intended!

Hortlund · « **Reply #26 on:** July 28, 2004, 03:39:26 PM »

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Originally posted by SaburoS
Well earlier you inferred he bragged about it. I asked for proof. You obviously couldn't find it so now you go on personal attack mode (which isn't unusual for you, BTW).

Apparently you failed completely to comprehend that my "suppose I hire someone to walk five paces infront of me shouting out my accomplishments" is in fact an analogy to what Kerry is doing in his election campaign right now. You will never hear him say "I saved that mans life and I am soo damn good" because that would be counterproductive (his ultimate goal here is to be elected president remember) instead he hires someone who says it for him "Kerry saved that mans life and he is soo damn good".

Now, if you dont understand the inherent dishonesty in this arrangement, and if you dont understand that it is infact Kerry that is doing the bragging, although through proxies, then I cant help you. Sorry.

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #27 on:** July 28, 2004, 03:43:35 PM »

Kerry did just fine in Vietnam, yes he did get out early with only some minor wounds but he put himself out there and there were nno guarantees that they would only be minor wounds.

Yet I feel commpelled to ask was Kerry a "hero" when he came back to the USA and started misrepresenting and lying about his his fellow American soldiers as the worst sort of murderous manaics who commited the worst sort of attrocities - none of which he saw - just to further his own political goals?

Sandman · « **Reply #28 on:** July 28, 2004, 03:44:56 PM »

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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Yet I feel commpelled to ask was Kerry a "hero" when he came back to the USA and started misrepresenting and lying about his his fellow American soldiers as the worst sort of murderous manaics who commited the worst sort of attrocities - none of which he saw - just to further his own political goals?

Lied?

How would you know if he lied?

Hortlund · « **Reply #29 on:** July 28, 2004, 03:45:52 PM »

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Originally posted by midnight Target
And I have had it with you're BS Hortlund. You really aren't that bright either are you? In fact you are quite stupid aren't you? Why by golly you just might be semi retarded isn't that right?

Richard Cranium!

Heh, funneh...I had enough of your BS about two years ago.

I dunno whats worse, you wanting to have some "who is brightest"-flamefest or you seeing yourself as Saburos "wingman"...

a bit too many hours playing pilot there maybe?