Author Topic: Picture is Worth a Thousand Words (Read 5477 times)

Lizking · « **Reply #30 on:** August 01, 2004, 10:15:31 AM »

Sixpence, tell that to all the guys in the NG. He did serve, you just will not accept the fact.

anonymous · « **Reply #31 on:** August 01, 2004, 10:58:03 AM »

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Originally posted by Sixpence
Yeah right, the guy who avoided service questioning the guy who did serve, i'de like to see that too.

whats the deal here? the guy was a fully rated fighter pilot right? thats a great deal of intensive training and a pretty high washout rate when you look at how many guys actually wind up in the cockpit of a fighter. how do you equate being a fighter pilot with "not serving". and ill also point out that bush isnt making sure his days as a fighter pilot are being mentioned every time his name is mentioned. sixpence have you read the transcript of kerrys testimony? do you even have an idea of what im talking about?

anonymous · « **Reply #32 on:** August 01, 2004, 10:58:47 AM »

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Originally posted by Sixpence
Yeah right, the guy who avoided service questioning the guy who did serve, i'de like to see that too.

wait i saw youre from boston. no further explanation necessary.

anonymous · « **Reply #33 on:** August 01, 2004, 10:59:21 AM »

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Originally posted by Sandman
You make it sound as if he submitted the picture himself.

why do you think that picture is there?

parker00 · « **Reply #34 on:** August 01, 2004, 11:25:39 AM »

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whats the deal here? the guy was a fully rated fighter pilot right? thats a great deal of intensive training and a pretty high washout rate when you look at how many guys actually wind up in the cockpit of a fighter.

Fully rated? I hope you realize that he was pushed up the ranks because of who his father is. Not on his own merrit. Not even Bush can show proof of his full service record. Not sure myself, but how many other "fighter pilots" were given leave to work on a political campaign?

Martlet · « **Reply #35 on:** August 01, 2004, 11:27:22 AM »

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Originally posted by anonymous
wait i saw youre from boston. no further explanation necessary.

Hey! I'm from Boston! We aren't all barking moonbats!

Martlet · « **Reply #36 on:** August 01, 2004, 11:28:57 AM »

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Originally posted by parker00
Fully rated? I hope you realize that he was pushed up the ranks because of who his father is. Not on his own merrit. Not even Bush can show proof of his full service record. Not sure myself, but how many other "fighter pilots" were given leave to work on a political campaign?

Could you show me the documents showing Bush didn't earn his promotions?

anonymous · « **Reply #37 on:** August 01, 2004, 11:41:34 AM »

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Originally posted by parker00
Fully rated? I hope you realize that he was pushed up the ranks because of who his father is. Not on his own merrit. Not even Bush can show proof of his full service record. Not sure myself, but how many other "fighter pilots" were given leave to work on a political campaign?

you couldnt buy a clue of a potato in thailand with seven thousand in cash. no one makes it as a fighter pilot or in any other combat job because of who is daddy is. and from what i understand at the time that bush was in the training pipeline his dad was just another politician. "pushed up the ranks"? its not like he ever attained a high rank. he was a fighter pilot and thats never been a easy job title to earn. you really think that fighter pilot instructors can be influenced by congressman or senator? you have no idea of what you are talking about.

parker00 · « **Reply #38 on:** August 01, 2004, 11:55:39 AM »

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Could you show me the documents showing Bush didn't earn his promotions?

I wish I could, but it seems that the military can't even find all of his records

Martlet · « **Reply #39 on:** August 01, 2004, 11:56:19 AM »

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Originally posted by parker00
I wish I could, but it seems that the military can't even find all of his records

Really? Which ones are they missing?

parker00 · « **Reply #40 on:** August 01, 2004, 12:08:09 PM »

This was taken from one of many newpapers that have talked about his military records. Would not be hard to find if you looked.

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The missing military records include a bevy of forms, logs, pay stubs and evaluations from Mr. Bush's time in the Texas Air National Guard. CBS News' evaluation of all the documents released by the White House confirms that the records have several holes

Martlet · « **Reply #41 on:** August 01, 2004, 12:10:25 PM »

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Originally posted by parker00
This was taken from one of many newpapers that have talked about his military records. Would not be hard to find if you looked.

Oh, you mean those records that were thought destroyed, but were actually misfiled 30 years ago then found?

Anything else?

parker00 · « **Reply #42 on:** August 01, 2004, 12:10:38 PM »

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you really think that fighter pilot instructors can be influenced by congressman or senator? you have no idea of what you are talking about.

My bad, your correct. No one in the military could be influenced by someone who once was the head of the CIA. Sorry for the mistake.

Dago · « **Reply #43 on:** August 01, 2004, 12:12:32 PM »

The "missing" records were in fact found, and a lot quicker than Billarys missing files, so please try and keep up with the news.

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WASHINGTON - The Pentagon (news - web sites) on Friday released payroll records from President Bush (news - web sites)'s 1972 service in the Alabama National Guard, saying its earlier contention the records were destroyed was an "inadvertent oversight."

The records cover July through September of 1972, when Bush was working as a campaign volunteer in Alabama. The future president had been transferred from the Texas Air National Guard to the Alabama unit so he could stay in Alabama.

The release came days before Democrats began their national convention in Boston to officially nominate Sen. John Kerry (news - web sites) as their presidential candidate.

Democrats have sought to contrast Bush's National Guard service with Kerry's Vietnam War record. Kerry enlisted in the Navy, volunteered for combat in Vietnam and earned several medals including a Silver Star, a Bronze Star and three Purple Hearts. After returning from Vietnam, Kerry became a prominent anti-war activist.

The Associated Press had asked a federal judge July 16 to order the Pentagon to quickly turn over a copy of the pay records. The AP had sued under the Freedom of Information Act to obtain the records from a state library records center in Texas.

Records of Bush's National Guard service released previously did not conclusively show whether Bush fulfilled his service requirements in 1972 and 1973, during the Vietnam War.

Bush had transferred to an Alabama National Guard unit while he worked on the U.S. Senate campaign of Republican Winton Blount, a family friend.

The Pentagon had said that the payroll records for that time period had been inadvertently destroyed.

In a letter to The Associated Press Friday, Pentagon freedom of information chief C.Y. Talbot said the records couldn't be found earlier because officials were using the wrong index number.

The Associated Press was evaluating the documents.

parker00 · « **Reply #44 on:** August 01, 2004, 12:13:42 PM »

WASHINGTON (Reuters) -- Some of President Bush's missing Air National Guard records during the Vietnam War years, previously said to be destroyed, turned up on Friday but offered no new evidence to dispel charges by Democrats that he was absent without leave.

Well, from the first word (some) would tell me they are still missing records. "no new evidence" dosn't seem to help your argument.