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Offline bustr

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« on: July 31, 2004, 09:20:19 PM »
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:aok TrackIR enhanced mode in AH2 Rocks! :aok

Now that TrackIR works in enhanced mode in AH2, 2 requests.

1. Can you enable it to pan 90 degrees straight up?

2. Now it's obvious why so many fighters had rear view mirrors and the P47D-40 had rear ward radar. No matter how you crank your head and or the TrackIR view arc, you cannot easily see your six. Will you be implimenting a rear view mirror keyview?

While in Tracker pan mode the view keys are still working, and yes I can use my hat switch to look Numpad-5 for 90up and Numpad-2 for rear or Numpad-5+2 for back up view. Then trackpan around in those for a view.

Some fighters using a combo of Numpad-2 and the tracker pan mode will have a some what usable 6 view, while others due to the rear deck configuration or armor plate will have none.

I hope these requests may be possible in later updates. Still ,,TrackIR even as it is, is still really COOL. :D
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Offline DAVENRINO

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« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2004, 11:32:39 PM »
AGREED!!  TIR support ROCKS!!  I love the way the hat still works with TIR in Pan Mode. Thnanks HTC.
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« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2004, 02:09:01 AM »
Good ideas.

I'm starting to like using my trackir 3 in AH. At first it was wierd, but the trick is to keep trying. Now, I'm no longer rattled in a fight to the point where I can't keep focused on my target. I'm learning to stay calm, then the view stays calm, and I'm getting my kills. I like how as your view slowly returns to center, a gentle "snap" type effect pulls it there and sort of keeps it there as long as you don't move your head too much. Just right.

It's really showing its usefulness with merges, also.

The 90 degree straight up would be great.

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« Reply #3 on: August 01, 2004, 10:06:50 AM »
Need help setting up my TIR2. Can anyone post what settings their utilizing in TIR software, or profile etc.. and also what  keys you've mapped.  Id like to spend the time, but kids etc..

Any help would be much appreciated.

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« Reply #4 on: August 01, 2004, 12:37:50 PM »
Yes  I need the same info as Balsy  I have a TIR2 also been sitting around for 5 or 6 months .  Any tips or tricks to help get it right would be great   I assume that all the native support is now in the AH2 program as of the last update?  I just downloaded and installed the 3.11 TIR software.  Anything else needed?  Thanks

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« Reply #5 on: August 01, 2004, 12:49:30 PM »
in my X45 AH2 profile I setup hat1 / shift3 so that it turned on / off IRtracker (default F9) by pressing up and and centered it by pulling down (default F12)

I just started up tracker program, which defaulted to my IL2/FB profile and started up AH2

when I want the IRtracker view I switch to shift 3, then push up on hat one

when in close and want to go to default jstick views, pull back to turn off then go to shift 1 to restore 8 way hat viewing
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« Reply #6 on: August 01, 2004, 01:35:44 PM »
I am using TIR2 with 3.11 software.  If you want to change key assignment, click redefine on Hotkeys tab and also reassign with keymapper in AH.  I don't think you can use combinations such as CNTRL+F5 in 3.11.  I only use the Pan mode and have it mapped to the hat next to my index finger on my throttle, as well as the "off" selection.  The view keys always work, so I just use my pinky button on the stick for the straight up view.

On the motion tab check Enhanced and Remember.  I chose presets to Custom and assinged X & Y axis separately.  I like a big deadband so Edit Points 0, 2, 5 in X are set to 0/ 10-1/ 20-2/ 30-4/ 40-6/ 50-8.
Y axis is 0, 0, 1, 4, 6, 8, 10, 14, and Smoothing is 120.

Name an AH profile on that tab and save it.  You can then choose which profile is the default for TIR startup.

My profile prolly won't work for you since my monitor is 10 feet away and the TIR is on the wall 6 inches behind the bill of my TIR hat worn backwards (not backwards for todays kids).
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« Reply #7 on: August 01, 2004, 11:22:41 PM »
Thanks guys for the info

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« Reply #8 on: August 02, 2004, 02:29:57 AM »
Actually I'm not using the TrackIR (ver 3.11 software) hotkeys at all, you can use the AH center & on/off keys for everything. Or at least it works fine for me. So I have the centering (default Ctrl+F4) on one button on my joystick and then Tracker Pan and Tracker Off on one hat (I'm using X45 too). Didn't find much use for the tracker snap or tracker move function. But I'm still learning...

& thank you HTC for TrackIR support. :)
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« Reply #9 on: August 02, 2004, 07:09:43 AM »
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Originally posted by Panzzer
Actually I'm not using the TrackIR (ver 3.11 software) hotkeys at all, you can use the AH center & on/off keys for everything. Or at least it works fine for me. So I have the centering (default Ctrl+F4) on one button on my joystick and then Tracker Pan and Tracker Off on one hat (I'm using X45 too). Didn't find much use for the tracker snap or tracker move function. But I'm still learning...

& thank you HTC for TrackIR support. :)


I switched to 3.11
how do I set the buttons in IRTracker software?
it won't let me plug in ctrl+F4..
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« Reply #10 on: August 02, 2004, 08:16:58 AM »
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Originally posted by Eagler
I switched to 3.11
how do I set the buttons in IRTracker software?
it won't let me plug in ctrl+F4..
tia

The TrackIR software doesn't allow key combinations. The ctrl-f4 Panzzer was talking about is an AH key command.

The AH keys default to CTRL-F1...CTRL-F5 and include "Tracker Off" and "Tracker Center" commands, so if you use them you don't have to use the trackIR ones at all. They're in the key mapper under "view" settings.

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« Reply #11 on: August 02, 2004, 10:20:42 AM »
Yes, I'm actually not using the TrackIR software keys (such as F10, F12 etc) for anything in AH2 now, I'm using the in-game keys for trackIR. So I have mapped the default AH2 tracker keys to my Saitek profile and am not using the TrackIR hotkeys at all.
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« Reply #12 on: August 02, 2004, 12:59:58 PM »
HTC, another thread is prompting these questions:

1. When you said to get the latest version of the TrackIR drivers, did you mean the current 3.11 or is there a 3.12 soon to be released? I'm assuming to implement TrackIR support you have been in contact with Natural Point and are privey to more than us.

2. Is the Tracker pan's inability to go 90 degrees up your programing feature, or an issue to be resolved?

In an older thread it was mentioned that since many rear view mirrors were feild upgrades you were not going to put that feature on any of the fighters in AH2. With TrackIR, it lends itself to needing that feild upgrade to successfully check your six now.
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« Reply #13 on: August 02, 2004, 01:27:37 PM »
As I understood it, the full functionality of TrackIR in AH2 is not yet possible, waiting on a new relase from NaturalPoint for that. Meaning the 90 degrees up view and the full six view (which was available with keypad or view hat) will start working with the upcoming version of the TrackIR software.

From patch 7 readme:
NOTE: To get full head movement, you will need to download the next version of the TrackIR driver from NaturalPoint when available.
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« Reply #14 on: August 02, 2004, 01:47:02 PM »
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In an older thread it was mentioned that since many rear view mirrors were feild upgrades you were not going to put that feature on any of the fighters in AH2. With TrackIR, it lends itself to needing that feild upgrade to successfully check your six now.


I am not having a real problem with the 6 view.  So far , I have only flown the 51, Yak, D9, and G10 with native TIR.  I get a great 6 view when I look full left or right as long as I don't look up at the same time.  The normal views still work but without saved head position.  It is handy having the TIR on/off switch next to my index finger on the throttle.
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