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Offline midnight Target

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« Reply #30 on: August 06, 2004, 05:08:22 PM »
Yes big block letters. Explain why it is OK to steal his songs now that he is supporting Kerry.

Go really big like THIS to make the hypocrisy stand out even more.

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« Reply #31 on: August 06, 2004, 05:14:56 PM »
Well, I don't understand this whole "boss" image he has....he ain't my boss.

Regardless, if I were MT I would be answering the KKK question by saying that in no way would I financially support the artist by buying his/her/their songs, but I'd go further and never want to hear him/her/them sing again.  Ergo no downloading either.

I think this whole "Rock For Kerry" thing is stupid and a cheap way of trying to change opinion.  We agree that politics and music are different, but in this case Bruce and the gang are bringing them together.  I really don't like that, especially based upon the ease of which Americans can be fooled by such cheap trickery attempts.

No likey at all.  It just re-enforces my opinion of the "boss".
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« Reply #32 on: August 06, 2004, 05:18:53 PM »
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Yes big block letters. Explain why it is OK to steal his songs now that he is supporting Kerry.

Go really big like THISto make the hypocrisy stand out even more.


I have always known he has had his sympathies to the left. I can live with that. In fact I dont have a problem with that. Now he comes out and start campaigning for Kerry. I have a huge problem with that. One of the consequences of his support for Kerry is that I will never again give Springsteen a cent. And I can honestly say that I hope everyone else does the same.

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« Reply #33 on: August 06, 2004, 05:26:13 PM »
OP-ED CONTRIBUTOR
Chords for Change
By BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN

Published: August 5, 2004

A nation's artists and musicians have a particular place in its social and political life. Over the years I've tried to think long and hard about what it means to be American: about the distinctive identity and position we have in the world, and how that position is best carried. I've tried to write songs that speak to our pride and criticize our failures.

These questions are at the heart of this election: who we are, what we stand for, why we fight. Personally, for the last 25 years I have always stayed one step away from partisan politics. Instead, I have been partisan about a set of ideals: economic justice, civil rights, a humane foreign policy, freedom and a decent life for all of our citizens. This year, however, for many of us the stakes have risen too high to sit this election out.

Through my work, I've always tried to ask hard questions. Why is it that the wealthiest nation in the world finds it so hard to keep its promise and faith with its weakest citizens? Why do we continue to find it so difficult to see beyond the veil of race? How do we conduct ourselves during difficult times without killing the things we hold dear? Why does the fulfillment of our promise as a people always seem to be just within grasp yet forever out of reach?

I don't think John Kerry and John Edwards have all the answers. I do believe they are sincerely interested in asking the right questions and working their way toward honest solutions. They understand that we need an administration that places a priority on fairness, curiosity, openness, humility, concern for all America's citizens, courage and faith.

People have different notions of these values, and they live them out in different ways. I've tried to sing about some of them in my songs. But I have my own ideas about what they mean, too. That is why I plan to join with many fellow artists, including the Dave Matthews Band, Pearl Jam, R.E.M., the Dixie Chicks, Jurassic 5, James Taylor and Jackson Browne, in touring the country this October. We will be performing under the umbrella of a new group called Vote for Change. Our goal is to change the direction of the government and change the current administration come November.

Like many others, in the aftermath of 9/11, I felt the country's unity. I don't remember anything quite like it. I supported the decision to enter Afghanistan and I hoped that the seriousness of the times would bring forth strength, humility and wisdom in our leaders. Instead, we dived headlong into an unnecessary war in Iraq, offering up the lives of our young men and women under circumstances that are now discredited. We ran record deficits, while simultaneously cutting and squeezing services like afterschool programs. We granted tax cuts to the richest 1 percent (corporate bigwigs, well-to-do guitar players), increasing the division of wealth that threatens to destroy our social contract with one another and render mute the promise of "one nation indivisible."

It is through the truthful exercising of the best of human qualities - respect for others, honesty about ourselves, faith in our ideals - that we come to life in God's eyes. It is how our soul, as a nation and as individuals, is revealed. Our American government has strayed too far from American values. It is time to move forward. The country we carry in our hearts is waiting.

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« Reply #34 on: August 06, 2004, 05:36:24 PM »
Still dodging Hortlund. Not that I really expected you to admit your hypocrisy.

If I found out one of my favorite artists was a KKK member I would instinctively know that that was so incredibly different from supporting a Democrat or Republican Presidential candidate that I would immediately not make that analogy.

Now if I found out that say.... Jackson Browne turned conservative I would sill enjoy his music, and I would have no trouble buying his music.

You'll ignore this paragraph too, but here goes anyway. You stated that you would no longer be reluctant to DL Bruce's songs since he is supporting Kerry. Kerry's candidacy runs counter to your conservative values. Values like the sanctity of personal property, and personal responsibility. So you'll teach that Springsteen fella by stealing his songs. That'll show him he needs to have better values!
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« Reply #35 on: August 06, 2004, 05:39:49 PM »
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You'll ignore this paragraph too, but here goes anyway. You stated that you would no longer be reluctant to DL Bruce's songs since he is supporting Kerry. Kerry's candidacy runs counter to your conservative values. Values like the sanctity of personal property, and personal responsibility. So you'll teach that Springsteen fella by stealing his songs. That'll show him he needs to have better values!
 


Downloadning songs is not stealing. To steal something you would have to remove it from some other guys possession.

It might be copyright infringement, but from what I have understood so far, the jury is still out on it when it comes to downloading it for personal use only. Spreading is a no-no though.

You have not answered the question though MT. If you found out that one of your favourite artists came out as a KKK supporter, would you stop buying his records or not?

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« Reply #36 on: August 06, 2004, 05:43:11 PM »
Unlikely as hell, but I wouldn't buy or own such a person's music.

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« Reply #37 on: August 06, 2004, 05:47:02 PM »
Thank you!

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« Reply #38 on: August 06, 2004, 05:57:39 PM »
I hate it when celebrities use their popularity to help someones political agenda. Evn if it were for my canidate. However I WAS a huge Dave Matthews fan...I just sold my concert tickets cause I will no longer give money to him because of this.