New whine

[TT]

 Now that the UFO-D was shiped back to roswell. I would like to bring up the insta- kill HO nature of the spit. Ive been flying the thing to see if it was just more time on target, due to the planes normal abilitys. I brought down a number of cons with snapshots. If it were an A8 or a N1k2 this would make sense. They had lots a cannon. But not with what the spit has.

 Before this turns into a "I dont HO" thread. Id like to point out that this is like a comment I read about masterbation. 90 percent of men do it. The other 10 percent lie about not doing it.

[Hristo]

Never HO, unless you carry a MK 103. Then it is HO masturbation all the way, against everything  


Speaking of which, how is 109K doing in that regard ?

Did it have MK 103 option or not ?

Did it have MG 151 15mm MGs or not ?

Some sources say yes, some not.

Sorry, TT, if this thread goes some other direction  



[This message has been edited by Hristo (edited 01-17-2000).]

[hblair]

I beg your pardon TT! I never HO, nor do I masterbate!

Now excuse me while I shave my palms.  

[juzz]

I pulled these quotes:
 

The MG 131 was a light weapon, but this was achieved by combining a modest muzzle velocity and a light projectile. Despite its limitations, it was used in German fighters until the end of the war, because it was not possible to install the MG 151 in the engine cowling of small fighters such as the Bf 109 or Fw 190; only the Do 335 and Ta 152C had the MG 151 as cowl gun. The MG 151 was a much heavier, much more powerful weapon, and it replaced the 20mm MG-FF as centreline armament on the Bf 109F. During the war a copy of the MG 151 was designed in the USA, modified to fire a very powerful .60 (15.2 x 114, 76.5g) round. But this T17 gun never reached service, and only about 350 were made.

 

Only at the very end of the war did some fighters carry the MK103 gun. Installations in the wings tended to be inaccurate, because the enormous recoil twisted the wing; centreline installations as engine cannon were designed for the Ta 152C, Do 335 and Bf 109K, but evidence that this was turned into hardware exists only for the Do 335 and the prototypes of the Ta 152C. The fighter designs that were on German drawing boards in 1945 sometimes made provision for the MK 103, but the favorite weapon was the MK 108.

from this website: http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/8217/fgun/fgun-in.html

Also, these numbers(gun, shell type/weight, ROF, Muzzle Velocity and gun weight):

MK 103 30x184B(330g) 420rpm 860m/s 146kg
MK 108 30x90RB(312g) 600rpm 505m/s 64kg

ShVAK 20x99R(96g) 800rpm 860m/s 42kg
Hispano Mk.II  20x110(130g) 600rpm 880m/s 50kg
MG 151 15x96(57g) 700rpm 960m/s 42kg
MG 151/20 20x82(115g) 740rpm 710m/s 42kg
MG 151/20 20x82(92g) 740rpm 800m/s 42kg
Type 99-2 20x101RB(129g) 490rpm 625m/s 34kg

Browning.50 M2 12.7x99(48.5g) 750rpm 870m/s 30kg
MG 131 13x64B(34.6g) 900rpm 730m/s 17kg
Breda-SAFAT 12.7x81SR(36.7g) 700rpm 760m/s 29kg

[This message has been edited by juzz (edited 01-17-2000).]

[Minotaur]

I just got to wondering.  What comes after the Spit?

Any one want to take bets, the N1K2 comes under fire next?

Mino

[dolomite]

See my post under "Fly what ya got" thread...

[Tern]

Don't know much, but I do know this:  I get far more kills in the N1K and LA5 than I do in the Pony.  Why?  Cause of them kanonnen (as Hangtime puts it).  HO's in those 2 planes are viable to me and I actually get about 3 to 1 kills to deaths in those planes. (shrugs after showing ignorance)
And I do not mastur-whatsits.   That's why I got married, so I'd have something else to do with it...  

[Shamus]

I gotta say the niki is a HO killer, as for the other part of your post, wait a minute the screens gettin blurry and dim

Shamus