Author Topic: Sick and Tired (Read 2088 times)

TweetyBird · « **Reply #60 on:** August 09, 2004, 02:05:04 PM »

>> Character and integrity, however, go a long way with me but it's an unfortunately difficult thing to judge from my living room or desk, especially the last 3 months before an election. From the outside looking in, the whole thing seems pretty bleak.
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I think you're right on the mark. There is no clear choice yet and all this crap about records is just that. Hopefully the debates will clear things up a little.

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #61 on:** August 09, 2004, 02:12:54 PM »

Maniac you can twist your fascist nonsense into any combination of words or perspectives you can dream up but it will never change the fact that you are wrong. The essence of democracy is openness of criticizm and debate and civil accountabilty, the very things you are arguing against...

Is it worth becoming a fascist to defend Kerry?

Martlet · « **Reply #62 on:** August 09, 2004, 02:14:26 PM »

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Originally posted by TweetyBird
I don't agree with that at all - I don't think a service record should be SMEARED. Kerry's records are in order - its all documented. There ARE no questions - just attemps to smear it.

So, eyewitness accounts of his lies don't count?

Maniac · « **Reply #63 on:** August 09, 2004, 02:16:25 PM »

Didnt you see when i rephrased? i said YOU cant comment/critizise on Kerrys service and expect to be taken seriously... everyone else on this board can go ahead.

After all we all know djust who you are. Your fasad is gone a long long time ago.

Im sorry.

Please move along.

Martlet · « **Reply #64 on:** August 09, 2004, 02:18:47 PM »

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Originally posted by Maniac
Didnt you see when i rephrased? i said YOU cant comment/critizise on Kerrys service and expect to be taken seriously... everyone else on this board can go ahead.

After all we all know djust who you are. Your fasad is gone a long long time ago.

Im sorry.

Please move along.

Ahhh, but YOU can defend and praise him? What makes you more qualified?

That being said, I'm not criticizing his service. I'm replaying the testimony of others who do, that were there.

Maniac · « **Reply #65 on:** August 09, 2004, 02:19:56 PM »

Mmmm?

Where did i do that... Defend him i mean. Im djust fed up with Grunhertz, thats all.

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #66 on:** August 09, 2004, 02:20:05 PM »

More fascist nonsense. You are saying that civilans can never judge the actions of soldiers. Thats basic facism.

Maniac · « **Reply #67 on:** August 09, 2004, 02:21:17 PM »

You know what im saying.

Martlet · « **Reply #68 on:** August 09, 2004, 02:21:46 PM »

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Originally posted by Maniac
Mmmm?

Where did i do that... Defend him i mean. Im djust fed up with Grunhertz, thats all.

Ahhh. You're the "I have nothing to say about the topic but I'll hop in here to bash Grun" crowd.

Carry on then.

Maniac · « **Reply #69 on:** August 09, 2004, 02:24:24 PM »

Thank you.

Hortlund · « **Reply #70 on:** August 09, 2004, 02:27:37 PM »

Maniacowned!

LOL This has got to be the first time a pinko pacifist is saying that no civilian has the right to question the actions of a soldier.

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #71 on:** August 09, 2004, 02:28:29 PM »

No Maniac, I dont.

Actually do me a favor go find a post of mine where I criticize Kerry's service, where i make a judgement about his actions in vietnam. At least in this thread I think the worst thing I said was that his 4 months were controiversial. and it clearly is a controvery is it not?

Now dont chicken out of it, go find it. Show it to me. Let me see what criticism you take such offense at.

I'm far more concerned about his wasted 20 years in the Senate, and so is Kerry which is why he focuses so much on those 4 months in nam.

Where I am pissed is this nazi attitide of your's about Kerry's service being off limits to civilan review. Thats kind of fascism is unacceptable to me and I will not shut up about that.

rpm · « **Reply #72 on:** August 09, 2004, 02:29:03 PM »

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Originally posted by TweetyBird
I don't think a service record should be SMEARED. Kerry's records are in order - its all documented. There ARE no questions - just attemps to smear it.

There are, however , very real questions about Bush's record (the military record - not the criminal - allthough there are questions about that too).

You got that dead solid perfect.

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #73 on:** August 09, 2004, 02:30:09 PM »

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Originally posted by Hortlund
Maniacowned!

LOL This has got to be the first time a pinko pacifist is saying that no civilian has the right to question the actions of a soldier.

Amazing isn't it? I'm calling them Neo-Fascists!

Toad · « **Reply #74 on:** August 09, 2004, 02:31:21 PM »

In almost every case I'll initially go for a guy that served over a guy that didn't serve.

Clinton/Bush Sr., Clinton/Dole.... no question. Gore/Bush, I consider that they both served honorably. Kerry/Bush, I consider that they both served honorable.

So the military service issue in this election is over for me.

Now...... who's fit to be POTUS?

Well, Bush should be running on his last 3 1/2 years in the ACTUAL JOB. The Dems should be attacking on that performance.

Kerry should be running on his record in public service, his Senate record. The Republicans should be attacking on that performance.

There's enough dung in both those heaps for a shirt-slinging mud fest by all parties.

Does the fact that both of them achieved 1 LT rank in the military qualify them as POTUS? Duh....... NO! These guys don't have an Eisenhower type military record. They were JUNIOR OFFICERS and that's all.