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Offline 1K3

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« on: August 09, 2004, 10:45:35 PM »
Now we have Ki-84 (still on waiting list). What should be next?

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« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2004, 11:38:44 PM »
Ki-43 and Ki-44 :D

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« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2004, 11:44:12 PM »
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« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2004, 12:23:19 AM »
Fighters?

 Still need more Japanese and Soviet stuff. The Ki-84-Ia closed off the largest gap in the entire plane set, but there are still much more smaller holes.

 The Japanese fought four years against the USN and both the Army and the Navy produced variety of aircraft to try and counter the USN - of them only two Zero variants and the N1K2 has been modelled. Only a single Army fighter of Ki-61 is in the set. A grand total of four fighter planes in the entire Imperial Japanese set. With the Ki-84 that's still only five.

 A6M3, Ki-43, Ki-44, Ki-45, and Ki-100 are all likely candidates for the (more or less) completion of the plane set.

 The VVS has it even worse. These guys fought the LW for three years in the largest air and ground battles of WW2, and for every LW variant in the air they tried to match it with their own . Of all those planes we only have four, concentrated on the mid/late war.

 I-16, Mig-3, LaGG-3, P-39N, P-39Q, La-5, Yak-1, Yak-7B, Yak-1B, Yak-9M, Yak-3 are all likely candidates.

 To choose two of them for the next next update, I'd go for the Ki-44 and the P-39N.

 The Ki-44 adds a midwar alternative for the Imperial Japanese, and the P-39N fills dual purposes in providing the one of the most important fighters of the VVS struggle, as well as adding in a Pacific plane for the USN to use.

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 As for filling gaps for already existing plane variants, the P-38G is probably the most needed. The RAF needs a better Spitfire9, at least upto '43 standards, and the LW needs a gap-filler between the G-6 and the G-10 - the Bf109G-14 which would become one of the most numerously produced G models in the 109 family.

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« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2004, 01:34:23 AM »
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« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2004, 03:21:32 AM »
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I-16, Mig-3, LaGG-3, P-39N, P-39Q, La-5, Yak-1, Yak-7B, Yak-1B, Yak-9M, Yak-3


Now that's what I'm talking about!

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« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2004, 04:04:28 AM »
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These guys fought the LW for three years in the largest air and ground battles of WW2,


USA fought the largest air battles, not the Soviets.

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« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2004, 08:01:55 AM »
Need russian & italian bombers, German condor would be nice also.

Early russian fighters, and Japanese float planes & flying boats.

Get all that & i'm ready for the p39, and a couple of other us planes.

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« Reply #8 on: August 10, 2004, 08:24:15 AM »
One of the reasons I wanted the KI.84 is it's shape, as it "should" be easy enough for Natedog and Superfly to modify it into a KI.43

We really don't have as many different A/C shapes in the game when ya think about it, all the F4Us... same, FW190a5, a8, f8... same, P-51b P51d... same, Yak9s... same, the list goes on.

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« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2004, 09:09:51 AM »
Sing it with me....

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« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2004, 10:55:51 AM »
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One of the reasons I wanted the KI.84 is it's shape, as it "should" be easy enough for Natedog and Superfly to modify it into a KI.43.

No, it is a completely diffent aircraft.  The are both Nakajima designs, but are no more similar than the P-40 and P-51.  The Ki-43 and Ki-44 will both require completely new 3D models.

To reuse work the A6M3, N1K1-J, Ki-100 would be the best choices.


As to the question:

We "need" so much that HTC can pretty much add whatever they like and it will probably fill a gap.

I would not be surprised if the bomber is a B-24, something German or something Russian.  The tank is probably a M4A3 E8 Sherman, but if not it will be a T-34.
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« Reply #11 on: August 10, 2004, 12:21:18 PM »
And what aircraft wishlist thread would be complete, without me chiming in practicly begging for an Me-410 :D

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« Reply #12 on: August 10, 2004, 12:24:33 PM »
There can be only one....



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« Reply #13 on: August 10, 2004, 01:49:04 PM »
I'd like to see the:

USA
P-38F
P-39
B-24
B-25
M4a3
M-26

German
He-111
Do-17
Me-109G-14
Me-410
Panther
Puma

British
Gladiator
Beaufighter
Halifax
Wellington
Churchill MkII
Matilda

Japanese
Ki-100
Ki-43
Ki-45
D4Y
Jap Tank


Russian
Mig 3
LaGG3
Pe-2
Tu-3
T-34
KV-1
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« Reply #14 on: August 10, 2004, 03:31:17 PM »
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Originally posted by Glasses
Ki-43 and Ki-44 :D


nice choice.
Ki-43 first...Ki-43-II fills CT and MA plane set.
Ki-44 would be interesting.