New idea what do you ladies and gentlemen think.

[twitchy]

Why not just simply limit the ability to change countries to changing only to the weaker countries? If the rooks have 30 gazillion players, then why should anyone be allowed to switch to that country. Limiting the plane set is a bad idea. It reduces the playability of the game, screws missions up, squads that fly certain planes are being forsaken... Try defending a base against LA7's and Spit9's when you can't even up a 190A8. Switch countries? Uh no, I have friends and a squad that has friends on Knights, and we have been loyal to that country for years, and god knows how pleasant everyone is to people that switch countries. Offer incentive, not limitation. Change the perk system rather than the planes available.

[Murdr]

Originally posted by twitchy
Why not just simply limit the ability to change countries to changing only to the weaker countries? If the rooks have 30 gazillion players, then why should anyone be allowed to switch to that country.

We suggested that days prior to the start of this thread.  By the current result, I assume it was deemed it would not be effective enough.

[humble]

Originally posted by twitchy
Why not just simply limit the ability to change countries to changing only to the weaker countries? If the rooks have 30 gazillion players, then why should anyone be allowed to switch to that country. Limiting the plane set is a bad idea. It reduces the playability of the game, screws missions up, squads that fly certain planes are being forsaken... Try defending a base against LA7's and Spit9's when you can't even up a 190A8. Switch countries? Uh no, I have friends and a squad that has friends on Knights, and we have been loyal to that country for years, and god knows how pleasant everyone is to people that switch countries. Offer incentive, not limitation. Change the perk system rather than the planes available.

FM-2 works great for base defense, so does a hurricane. Losing the spit V is a much bigger problem than losing a spit IX or la-7 with a capped base. La-5,Yak and 205 are all good also...I just cant find any merit anywhere in the "I lost my plane" argument. It really seems pretty simple. Either fly what you have available for the "country" you feel loyal to or fly what you want/need where the numbers are needed. Still amazed at how tough this simple concept seems to be for some folks.

[eskimo2]

Making planes unavailable seems to have ticked off a lot of people.  Making the perk cost more expensive didn’t seem to make so many mad.  So, why not make the perk prices much more expensive.  If an LA-7 was 100 points to a country with a lot more players it would be almost as much as a disadvantage/detriment of making it unavailable without the label of “unavailable”.  Remember it’s the label of unavailable that seems to be making so many folks see red and foam at the mouth.

eskimo

[BUG_EAF322]

P38 is just as dweeb as a La7

everybody easily kills everything in it i guess.

[azure]

To solve side imbalencing,  I think fit to allow player move to only sparsely populated country without time restriction to return.

Server decide that a country is sparsely populated country in much the same way as ENY system.
And system call that the country need "Volunteer Soldiers", and temporarily remove restrictions on time to wait 8hours to return thier primary country.

(Excuse my strange english:) I'm not good at using it.

[twitchy]

Waaaah they pork our fuel...
So now we have eternal, invincible 75% fuel at bases.
Waaaah We're outnumbered...
So now we have to watch our planes get disabled.
Waaaah They are base grabbing...
Now towns have a ridiculous # of buildings, early AM base takes nearly impossible.
Waaaah Alt monkeys!
Now we burn a 1/4 tank of gas getting half a sector.
Waaaah CV Guns Killing us!
So now you can kill all the guns on a CV group with a single p51 sortie (have screen shots of this)
What's next, no kill ho shots?
Maybe twenty goons to take a town?
Anybody else see the pattern here?
When I sign on and can't even fly a F4u1d, or roll a panzer, then what is going on?

[culero]

Originally posted by twitchy
snip:
Maybe twenty goons to take a town?

Aside from all the other (to some extent I agree with some of what you wrote) making it take more troops to capture does make some sense. It really did make a difference for the good when we upped the number of troops needed to capture at AW from one goon load to one and a half or two.

Fighting is what makes this game fun. You can be losing and having fun, so long as you're getting plenty of chances to get yer licks in. Make the fights last longer and you go a long way to solving the problem of numbers imbalance.

culero

[Overlag]

Originally posted by BUG_EAF322
when i cannot fly the p38 it totally suks specialy because there are no early type p38s.

and why in the fk is the envy on the p38 so low

good point

the country was high numbers loses one of my fave CV killers

i think if this system remains in place, ALL fighters that had older models should have at least one. I mean look how many spits/109/190s we have. 51s,47s and even the la5/7 allows you to fly simular planes...maybe a old P38 will be nice

(im not sure how much work that will take, but it would be nice)

[VolsCAF]

Sucks to get punished for belonging to the same country you have stuck with for almost 4 years through thick and thin and months and months of being outnumbered and spanked night after night. Things have always shifted over time. Now we seem to need to force it. I'd like to see more planes perked than a time limit. I have limited time to play anyway and now I will be forced to sit, unable to fly unless I am willing to change countries. No doubt my monthly fee will not be discounted for the time I sit or the planes I can't fly.

I'm sure the answer is... "just change countries you whiner". Did you ever consider that some people / squads are very loyal to the country they fly for and have spent a long time building relationships with other pilots and squads in that country. I know for me the relationships and teamwork are a big part of why I play the game. If I just wanted to fly around and shoot stuff I don't need to play a game like this I can just buy a PC game and play against / with AI.

So I guess that means I don't like it. I do understand the issue that faces you though and I'll try to be patient and see how things work out.

Thanks for listening.

[4510]

Originally posted by humble
Either fly what you have available for the "country" you feel loyal to or fly what you want/need where the numbers are needed. Still amazed at how tough this simple concept seems to be for some folks.

Yeah... it's probably no more complex a concept than the two smaller countries exploiting the three country model and ganging on the larger country until odds even a bit.   Except it does require a code change... the three country model doesn't.

[gofaster]

Anything that limits gameplay will ruin the perceived value of the game - "I can't fly the Mustang so why am I paying for this game?"

So the real issue here is:

squadrons

and

missions


being too effective in base captures.


Simple answer: change the strategic aspect of the game so that instead of having to capture ALL of a country's bases, the "winner" would only need to capture a select few that could be capturable by the other sides as well: i.e. "neutral" bases to fight over.  This would give a country "on the ropes" some bases from which to launch a counterattack.

Or

player-mannable guns at towns with a lethality equal to a 20mm cannon, that regen at the same rate as the hangars.  

Also,

Bring the Malcolm Hood to the P-51B!  You could call it a P-51C! [/b]

[bozon]

Originally posted by hitech
Our current thought is that a country with substantialy more numbers, say in the realm of 20% more will have a time limit imposed between flights. This time would vary with the side balance.

Your thoughts?

HiTech

I don't like it.
I prefere to be restricted to flying Hurri 1 or C202 than sit idle in the tower and talk smack on channel 1 (ok 200 now).

It will achive the goal though. The moment that kicks in I'll immetiatly change country or log off. I have little time to play these days and I won't waste it in the tower.

Bozon

[gofaster]

Originally posted by bozon
I don't like it.
I prefere to be restricted to flying Hurri 1 or C202 than sit idle in the tower and talk smack on channel 1 (ok 200 now).
 

I agree. I'd rather be forced to fly a B-stang than sit on my hands.  I only get an hour a day to fly and the last thing I want to do is spend $15 a month on a game that I end up using as a chatroom.

Speaking of the P-51B, Bring the Malcolm Hood to Aces High!

[hitech]

bozon: Your a little behind the times. This thread was the first idea, we changed to the current ENY balance system.


HiTech