Hitech You're Killing the 339th Fighter Group!

[dracon]

Please reconsider!  We are a PONY squad, historical.  That's what we do.  We have been Rook since our beginings some 1 1/2 years ago.  Nice and simple P-51D, Rook.

Limiting our ride because of numbers puts us out of business.  Our squad night is Sunday at 9PM EDT.

It's not that we can't fly other planes we DON'T WANT TO FLY OTHER PLANES!  We can't even be sure if we switch countries the P-51 will be there or stay there during the squad night without switching countries multiple times.

It is totally unfair to ask a squadron CO to Hopscotch his squadron from country to country each time they log on in search of their squadron-specific rides!

It is my honest opinnion that the numbers will swing the other way as naturally as the did when we started.  Originally the ROOKs were sadly out numbered and the pendulum swung towards them.  If left alone it will swing back.

Ladies and Gentlemen of AH.  This is not posted here as a debatable issue.  It is NOT a Rook only problem.  It is not a P-51D only problem.  I have openly asked this of Hitech and posted here in hopes that other squads from all countries might join in.  I am asking for a stay-of-execution for the 339th and other squadrons that share the same love of history and the love of specific rides.

Respectfully,

[ghostdancer]

Dracon not to worry .. remember you have the P51B which is 35 ENY. So for the most part I think you guys will still have the lesser pony available to you.

[Wotan]

Chess piece loyalty is kind of silly don’t you think?

I am not saying that ride limits are a solution to the gang bang but I know what the solution is to your complaint above, switch sides.

Ya’ think that might be what HT is trying to achieve? Once enough folks switch sides then all the planes become available again...

HT isn’t killing your squad it’s your unwarranted loyalty to your preferred chess piece.

Try switching sides and see how it goes before predicting the end of the world.

[FUNKED1]

[simshell]

funny to think that a p51 squad cant fly p51Bs

[dracon]

Wotan...Let me explain!

There is NO chess piece loyalty here.  There IS plane loyalty and Historical loyalty.  I will maintain that....always.

The P-51B is not an option.

Sunday night.  We log on Rook the P-51 is there.  One sortie later it is disabled by numbers.  We go Bish as do others in search of their ride that is now unavailable.  One sortie later the P-51D is unavailable to the Bish.  We now go Knit.  Got the picture.

If you read above, this is not specific to the Rooks or to P-51D's but to all squads in all countries that have specific rides that are in danger of being grounded for numbers.

Please!  This is not meant to be debated among the community.  This is my open letter to Hitech and HTC.  I wish to have squads that face this problem join me here.

With greatest respect to all,

[Jackal1]

Originally posted by Wotan
Chess piece loyalty is kind of silly don’t you think?
 

  I find this statement "silly" and always have. It`s like telling someone that has rooted for their home team all their life that it`s silly and to root for the opposing side or even to aid them. I know a lot of players don`t "get" this and that`s fine, but to a lot of players, especialy some of us old timers, switching sides just don`t feed the bulldog. It`s what immerses some of us in the game and makes it tick.
  The "chess piece" part is just a symbol, but that symbol represents a virtual home to some. Without a permanant side, country, etc the game would just be another arcade shooter with no direction and absolutely nothing to hold the interest to some of us. If your satisfied and not concerned with what country or "chess piece", as you put it, fine, but that`s not what the game is all about for some.
  Maybe you can gather up a group and form Chess Piece Anonymous (CPA ).
  Then your group could jump from country to country to equalize numbers.

[JB73]

Originally posted by Jackal1
It`s like telling someone that has rooted for their home team all their life that it`s silly and to root for the opposing side or even to aid them....

...The "chess piece" part is just a symbol, but that symbol represents a virtual home to some. Without a permanant side, country, etc the game would just be another arcade shooter with no direction and absolutely nothing to hold the interest to some of us...

very well stated... i agree with what i have quoted.

[Redd]

Originally posted by dracon
Wotan...Let me explain!

There is NO chess piece loyalty here.  There IS plane loyalty and Historical loyalty.  I will maintain that....always.

The P-51B is not an option.




With greatest respect to all,

it's Ok  , you are allowed fly 51-B's it's  in your consitution/code of conduct - there's no mention of variant.  





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4. The P-51 is our primary ride, each member should make it a point to spend half of his or her time flying it in the Arenas.  In the right hands the "pony" is the scourge of the virtual skies. Take the time to learn it.


Jeff "biz" Holden
Founder and CO (emeritus)
339th Fighter Group Virtual

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[Karnak]

I doubt that HiTech is going to set the threshold so low that aircraft become unavailable at the rate you suggest.

What I bet happens is that after a period of occilation the sides settle down at roughly even numbers that keeps all planes almost always available for all countries.

[Wotan]

The side you happen to fly on isn’t your team. People switch sides all the time as is. The players are as diverse on each side as they are on all sides.

What’s silly is coming to the BBS whining about how HT has killed your squad as if there's no recourse.

Switching sides solves that. To claim "I will quit before I switch" or "Rook till I die" is stupid beyond belief.

There's nothing unique or deserving of irrational loyalty in regards to the players on any side in AH. Switch sides, fly the plane you like and make new friends and find new enemies. The world won’t end.

Sunday night. We log on Rook the P-51 is there. One sortie later it is disabled by numbers. We go Bish as do others in search of their ride that is now unavailable. One sortie later the P-51D is unavailable to the Bish. We now go Knit. Got the picture.

Dracon,

In the short term the you might have that problem ( I doubt it). There may be some fluididity between sides until things settle and the players who have switched find a new home.

Until then you may run into that problem.

But ultimatly this could have been settled by the players themselves without HT having to go to this extreme. Had folks been willing to switch on their own to balance out the arena all would have remained as is.

See what the silly "side loyalty" has resulted in?

As for the "debate" you already lost it. Read any number of recent posts about the imbalance in side numbers. HT deicided on a course and set it.

If you only wanted to hear from HT then why didn't you just call him?

[DREDIOCK]

I am in absolute total agreement with this.
Im a knight. My loyalty is to the knights. If they were called  Bz I would be loyal to them.
Its the country I fly for. teh chess peice is simply a way of identifying it
To me it adds to the immersion.
For me there has to be a bigger reason for the the fight then just to fight. I can get that in just about any boxed game which I would probably get pretty bored with after a few weeks
Im not in it for just  the blob vrs blob fight but the overall picture.  Thats whyI fly the way I do I do whats needed for my country. I couldnt care less aboutmy score, rank or KD ratio. I look at them as asource of amusement more then anything.
Thats why I spent almost the entire night sunday doing almost nothing but running around and nailing barracks.
Other times I may be in a GV either attacking or defending a base. Or manning ack, or running supplies.
Or any of a dozen other things.
Like I said, it adds to the immersion which for me is a big part of the fun

Originally posted by Jackal1
I find this statement "silly" and always have. It`s like telling someone that has rooted for their home team all their life that it`s silly and to root for the opposing side or even to aid them. I know a lot of players don`t "get" this and that`s fine, but to a lot of players, especialy some of us old timers, switching sides just don`t feed the bulldog. It`s what immerses some of us in the game and makes it tick.
  The "chess piece" part is just a symbol, but that symbol represents a virtual home to some. Without a permanant side, country, etc the game would just be another arcade shooter with no direction and absolutely nothing to hold the interest to some of us. If your satisfied and not concerned with what country or "chess piece", as you put it, fine, but that`s not what the game is all about for some.
  Maybe you can gather up a group and form Chess Piece Anonymous (CPA ).
  Then your group could jump from country to country to equalize numbers.

[jdpete75]

I hope you are a psychologist wotan, to be telling people how they should feel about thier team.  If not you need to STFU.  The lack of loyalty is probably what gets teams (or lack therof) in trouble with players jumping ship.  YOu also need to learn to read,  there is a reason we dont want to switch sides and it was clearly stated above.  Now if you had learned your 3 Rs in school you also would have been able to read the purpose to this thread.  If you need it, we could probably put the very first post on a .wav file for you to listen to, or maybe you can just sound it out yourself. whatever

Otherwise you need to screw off and get off Dracons back for bringing up a legitimate complaint we have for the new system that basicaly rewards whining, dweebery, and lack of teamwork.  And punishes working together for a common goal ie: resets.

[ramzey]

Kids, you all over reacted:D
Dracon bever will happend something like that on MA, so calm down.

We are rooks, we fly all iron stored at hangar with spit, pony B as favorite (according to our historical profile).
I will not swich side even if 262 wil cost 1 perk in knightland or bishtardia
We swich to rooks when they need help and we wil stay here, no matter how attractive rides will give us swiching sides. We are not "cheap" squadron

btw.
 ROOKLAND OR DEATH]

[B17Skull12]

personally i dont see the difference between al the sides.