Which of course invalidates any other points mentioned concerning how the AW community and the AW staff handled a very similar situation. Makes sense to me. If the game sucked, then nothing related to the game has relevance. I understand completely.
If you want to talk about AW then I am not interested. I didn't fly AW and honestly don't care anything about it all. There have been many AW threads on this forum and if AW is something you want to discuss then I suggest a review of those old threads. So yes AW is completely irrelevant to me. Maybe some one else wants to talk about it.
It is in HT's interest to provide a gaming experience that is enjoyed by the MAJORITY of his account holders, not the vocal minority. Glad I don't have to decide which way to turn.
I joined this whole thread for two reasons. I think the original poster had every right to voice his opinion concerning this impending change. A paying customer that wants to make sure that HT hears his side. Why everyone wanted to step up with such things as "fly something else" etc. is beyond me. He pays his money and he has a right to ask for the product he wants. Ultimately he has the right not to pay for a product that no longer meets his needs.
Secondly, I wanted to offer that this isn't a new problem and "flying communities" (insert flight sim name here) have experienced and survived these very same problems without draconian measures.
Of course he has a right to his opinion, as do I or you. That's not at issue. As much as he wants his opinion heard in regards to the upcoming changes there are those of us who disagree with his opinion and in order that HT maintains a balanced view we make sure to contrast the two. One guy says it will mean the end of all things and another guy says it won’t.
The majority of the players haven’t come out against HT's plan. Where's your polling data.
Plenty of paying customers have said that they don’t enjoy the game when the numbers are lopsided. A majority? Who knows, it doesn’t really matter.
However, when folks leave AH they fill out a little feed back pop up. I would guess HT has read more then a few folks say the game play is what keeps them away. IMO one of the worse aspects of AH's game play is the horde. It's even worse when the horde has a large numerical advantage.
Of course this isn’t a new issue. Not even if AH. That doesn’t mean that it’s not a real issue. The only difference that I see in AH now in regards to the past was that in the past players moved on their own. Now they aren’t so willing and espouse such things as "Rook 'til I die" "I won’t betray my country" etc...
And do we the community have access to reliable data that shows that the sides are terribly uneven for large amounts of time or are we just pointing to certain peak events, like a Rook Sunday night? For what length of time can we show data that has the Rooks with more numbers than either the BISH and KNITS combined? If we are talking small spike events and after that BISH and KNITS have more total.... then the BISH and KNITS can handle this in the arena without HT forcing a fix. (as they have the last several nights) Might mean BISH and KNITS have more trouble forcing a reset as they will have to decide when or if they turn on each other but.....
It’s funny that you demand data especially when it follows a claim like "the majority of AH paying customers". You certainly don’t have data to support that. Ask HT how players who play AH actually read or post of this forum. Not a majority I bet. Its up to HT to explain his reasoning if he chooses to.
But since you want "data" you can search the forum. There have been a number of threads that track player numbers over the years. Ghostdancer in another thread provide some in the context of this discussion.
Just a matter of viewpoint. It may be irrational to you, but until you pay the other folks' AH accounts, they have a right to fly it their way. Same thing goes for plane choice. If a dweeb wants to fly one and only one plane, you and I might have an opinion, but it's their business what they fly, not ours.
It’s irrational when it gets to the point where the game needs to be redesigned because folks are unwilling on their own to correct the problem.
Where I have told anyone what they should fly? You can search my replies (Batz or Wotan) on this bbs to see exactly how I feel on that.
Even in the context of the current discussion I have said I don’t agree with HT's solution because I don’t think folks should be denied the plane of their choice outright.
I'm not sure what HT saw, I haven't seen any data. I assume he is responding to input from the community. Of course the unhappy folks speak louder and more often than the happy ones. Now that he is preparing to make a change to appease some folks, he is hearing from the formerly happy ones. Vicious circle. If I had data that showed that the Rooks outnumbered the Knits and Bish combined on a continual basis I would be more inclined to think something had to be done. But realistically it would have to be significantly larger numbers. The whole reason the game is built with 3 countries is to negate lopsided numbers. If we are going to put measures in to FORCE equal sides, then dump one of the countries and we can have just a two sided arena.
HT doesnt owe any of us "proof" or the reasoning behind his descisions. However, he did explain himself rather well in his post on the sublect. But if the number imbalance only occurs occassionally and or rarely then the ride restrictions will be very rare as well. So what's the problem?
We are not talking about any other solution other then the one HT has decided on. 3 countries, 4 countries, 10 countries who cares. This game has 3 and HT's solution to the side imbalance is to restrict certain rides that fall below a given eny value. That is what this thread is about.
I won't doubt some customers have been lost on the gangbang. I don't know of any but that is neither here nor there. Lost ALOT more customers with the AH2 "upgrade" I'd wager. I don't see us opening up AH1 again.
I wont speculate and say the driving force behind Ht's descision to restrict certain rides was customers leaving. I said that I am sure he's lost some. If he wants to tell us that he will. Every customer who leaves is asked for some feedback as to why they are leaving.
Most of those who threatened to quit Ah when AH2 came out still play AH with the exception of those with low end hardware. I would bet even those folks will be back if and once the get better equipment.
But lets say that the number imbalance isnt even an issue except rarely. Let's assume HT had made a rash descision in restricting rides once the number imbalance reaches a certain threshold. This would only mean that on rare occasions, when that threshold is reached, some planes will be restricted for the side that has the advantage. So what? If the number imbalance is rare then the ride restrictions will be rare.
My input or opinions are BS. Glad you got that out in the open. Wouldn't want that to one of those implied things. HT is not forced to do any one course of action. As a businessman I agree he needs to evaluate the game play and decide if he thinks it needs to be changed. If he wants to change it, change it. He gets paid to make the big decisions and can monitor the bottom line. If his bottom line looks good, then it doesn't matter if the change made some people unhappy.
Here I have to question your reading ability.
How does this:
Any other BS you want to wrap into it is beside the point.
equal to:
My input or opinions are BS
If you remember what your wrote in your first reply to me then you will see that, like in your last reply, you mixed in multiple issues you have with AH and that have nothing to do with this thread.
Things like AW and strat etc are examples. As I said I have no interest in either of those. Nor do I care to talk about adding more sides of taking some away. That is the "BS" I was referring to.
Which is your opinion of what your gaming experience requires. HT can put a check mark in the "Who Cares Column" for fixing the strat. I personally think if you've had maps for two plus years that have porked Strat... either shut the strat / HQ functions off or fix them. So my check goes in a different column.
Strat and war winning are not something I care about in a flight game. I play to engage other folks in air to air combat. Anything more then that doesn’t interest me.
Strat is not the subject of this thread anyway. If you want to talk about strat please search through the previous posts on the subject. Or maybe you can find some one who wants to to discuss it with you.
