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Offline Panman

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« Reply #45 on: August 14, 2004, 09:45:49 AM »
My 2 cents. If your gonna limit the 51D's & la7's then you should also limit the amount of planes that can up 1 base. So if your down to 3 or 4 bases, lets say only 25 planes per base can up.That would mean you would have to wait in the twr untill a plane became available.After all whats good for the goose is good for the gander:D

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« Reply #46 on: August 14, 2004, 11:15:16 AM »
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So, what we have. To fly the bird I want to fly I have to betray my country. Straight and simple.
If loyalty to your country is so important, fly one of the other planes that IS available. If you'd rather change country to fly your plane of choice, then I put it to you that your primary loyalty is not to your country but to yourself.

AH is a WW2 War/combat sim. WW2 was everything to do with hardship/sacrifice, and NOTHING to do with the malaise of the 21st century, the "I've got my rights" movement.

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« Reply #47 on: August 14, 2004, 11:52:54 AM »
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I'm sure HT appreciates responses of this calibre supporting his decision.
 

I am not employed by HTC, nor do I speak FOR them.  I'm sure they don't give a ****.

It's a freakin' GAME people...  Lighten up!  Some of you act like this patch was equivalent to insulting your mothers.  Good god.
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« Reply #48 on: August 14, 2004, 12:21:49 PM »
OK, guys, all your positions can be divided to :

1. Don't keep loyalty to chess pieces, go to bish or knights and fly whatever you want.

It is true, but... I am flying for rooks, and I know call signs of  some good sticks I like to fly with. No, I am not in their squads but if possible I try to keep not far from them and learn. Study their techniques, tactics, flight parameter - alt from where they start attacks, when and where they disengage, etc. Mostly they even don't know that I am looking. It will take a lot of time to find similar players on other sides. Who are good, who flight the same type of planes and fly style I like.

2. Try other types of plane. It is better for you.

I tried to explain why I would like to fly P51D. In short - I want to learn this plane. I will change it later, but now I have to learn it. OK. When I started fly I chose Spit. And so happened that planes I was afraid the most were P51D and F190D. It is my experience,  you may be surprised by such set but so happened. And first planes I started to learn were F190 and P51. I am far from being so good that can change planes in every sortie. I have to concentrate on one plane - I am sure you would advise the same for newbies.

Urchin, thank you for your advises. I read a lot of advises in Help and Training, and try everything. Something works, something not. For example, your advice about films is not so good, Unfortunately, records don't show flight parameters - speed, acceleration, alt, - and because of that they are rather useless. I recorded my flights with hope to see flight parameters of my enemies on some reversals but... These films are just a show.

And I fly often! 133 figher sorties in this month, 32 hours, k/d 1.3. Main problem with gunnery. Believe me neither trainers nor drons offline can increase my gunnery, I have to do it myself. What do you think, changing planes in each sortie helps me? I don't think so.

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« Reply #49 on: August 14, 2004, 02:08:28 PM »
Yo Vad I think I see what your trying to tell everyone.

It's unfortunate that this new system was put in place at this time.

Presently there is no way around it but what has been said.  Fly another plane or for another country.

May I suggest something???  (waits all of 3 seconds for reply :) ....... no reply so here goes :) )

Try the B model!  I think you will find it improves your gunnery, and while the 2 planes are pony's, preforms a little better then the D.

Before I flew most anything in AH I flew the B pony allot!!!!

Stayed fairly high alt and fought almost all the other planes with success ( LOL eventually that is :D )

Even got to where I could occasionally shoot down a entire box of B17' with it (sometimes LOL)

My current favorite is the 109's.  Compress can be or is bad but .........

And GOOD LUCK and GOOD HUNTING TO U :)
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« Reply #50 on: August 14, 2004, 02:25:56 PM »
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(I think) Vad is 110% correct. Why shouldn't the guy be able to fly the plane he wants, blah blah blah.  
 



I want to fly the Re2005 more than he wants to fly the El-gay 7. Start lobbying for me. Hell, we might just get a new plane out of it.

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« Reply #51 on: August 14, 2004, 02:31:09 PM »
vad, are you using the film viewer?  it shows all of those things.
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« Reply #52 on: August 14, 2004, 02:55:10 PM »
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I want to fly the Re2005 more than he wants to fly the El-gay 7.


Yeah, me too. I want the F4U-1a, and the F6F-3, and the Ki43 Ki44 and Ki45, and the D4Y Judy, and the P-38F, and the P-39, and the LaGG 3....all more than they want to fly LGay7's. You know what? I dont stress about it because I know HT will do it when time and resources allow it.

Limiting a couple of rides for a few minutes to the country with the most numbers is not the end of the world. If it doesnt work HT and Pyro will change it and find something that will work.

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« Reply #53 on: August 14, 2004, 03:04:40 PM »
Oh yeah, I forgot the J2M Raiden, we need that one too.

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« Reply #54 on: August 14, 2004, 03:47:23 PM »
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I'm of a more "spartan" school than most people.  I think that the quickest way to learn how to fight is to fight often, and in a plane that isn't nescesarily the "best" at fighting.  For instance, take a 190, fly low, let people bounce you.  You'll learn how to fight from a disadvantage in a less manueverable plane.  Part of that learning is learning how to get away (no, usually just straight running won't do the trick).

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I agree with most of your points - but putting yourself in a position to die early and often isn't much of a learning experience. Something else which is very useful is finding someone to fly with. Just being a wingman and clearing someone else's 6 can teach you a lot. Following how a more experienced player makes his attacks, picks his targets, plans his escape - watching films only gets you part of this ... you need to be there to get the timing of the game.

If you want to learn to energy fight, the Fw190A-5 is a nice plane to learn in. It's very nimble and performs well under 15K ... 2 20mm with gobs of ammo is helpful when learning. As important is the good view all around. It's low-speed handling is good enough to let you make a couple mistakes. The maniacial roll rate will also let you evade when speed alone isn't enough.

For angles fights, the F6F or P38 are decent to learn in. Mainly because they're pretty forgiving and pretty rugged, with lots of ammo. The N1K is a bad learning choice as the temptation to HO is just too great. The Yak-9U is also good fun and a nice ride to learn in - just don't expect multiple kills with only 120 rounds of 20mm.

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« Reply #55 on: August 14, 2004, 03:49:50 PM »
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vad, are you using the film viewer?  it shows all of those things.

Yes, I am using film viewer. But it shows only parameters of my plane. If I get in opponent's cabin I see nothing. Just beautiful views from windows. The same situation with the Ack-Ack films - I can see his controls but can't see controls of his opponent.
Looks like it is by design.

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« Reply #56 on: August 14, 2004, 04:59:38 PM »
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Yes, I am using film viewer. But it shows only parameters of my plane. If I get in opponent's cabin I see nothing. Just beautiful views from windows. The same situation with the Ack-Ack films - I can see his controls but can't see controls of his opponent.
Looks like it is by design.

It is because the recorder doesn't have access to that data.  To have access that data would have to be included in the packets sent to the server amd from the server to the recorder, all of which would add to the lag.
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« Reply #57 on: August 14, 2004, 07:03:28 PM »
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It is because the recorder doesn't have access to that data.  To have access that data would have to be included in the packets sent to the server amd from the server to the recorder, all of which would add to the lag.


Actually, it has. May be not the same which was displayed on the controls but general parameters - altitude, speed, acceleration and direction it should have. Otherwise my client software couldn't display movements of opponent's plane correctly. And believe me when I sit in the cabin of the opponent's plane I don't see the sequence of bitmap images. Viewer displays images according to the record of speed, altitude, etc.
Yes, looks like not all parameters are recorded. My client doesn't need to know about number of bullets or oil temperature. But it would be VERY useful to see main parameters of flight.

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« Reply #58 on: August 14, 2004, 07:13:43 PM »
vad are you using the ingame film viewer?   There are 2 viewers- the ingame one and the 2nd viewer in your AH folder.

The viewer in your AH folder has plane info  like this to the right of the screen.



It doesn't give as much as you want, but it gives alt + speed.
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« Reply #59 on: August 14, 2004, 07:36:56 PM »
look at those ubberfinnperkele alt monkies;)
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