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Offline X2Lee

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« Reply #15 on: August 14, 2004, 09:24:22 AM »
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« Reply #16 on: August 14, 2004, 09:26:38 AM »
The problem here is HQ=Radar for whole country.

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« Reply #17 on: August 14, 2004, 09:45:12 AM »
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The problem here is HQ=Radar for whole country.


This is certainly true...

Can someone explain how the loss of HQ disables ship radar?! LOLOLOL Must be an awfully long extension cord!

HQ needs to serve another purpose, such as increasing rebuild time or eliminating it completely at all bases while it is down... Perhaps the loss of BAR-DAR too.

However, local field radar (DOT-DAR) should not be disabled except by local attack. Even fleet radar should remain up, even if only a single destroyer remains afloat as every ship should have SG search radar (these are USN type vessels, after all).

Perhaps HTC can begin eliminating some of the more "gamey" aspects as they improve and add to AH2.

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« Reply #18 on: August 14, 2004, 10:23:10 AM »
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This is certainly true...

Can someone explain how the loss of HQ disables ship radar?! LOLOLOL Must be an awfully long extension cord!

HQ needs to serve another purpose, such as increasing rebuild time or eliminating it completely at all bases while it is down... Perhaps the loss of BAR-DAR too.

However, local field radar (DOT-DAR) should not be disabled except by local attack. Even fleet radar should remain up, even if only a single destroyer remains afloat as every ship should have SG search radar (these are USN type vessels, after all).

Perhaps HTC can begin eliminating some of the more "gamey" aspects as they improve and add to AH2.

My regards,

Widewing



Yep. I agree. Give HQ another function, or tie it to DAR radar only.

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Re: Re: ROOK RJO stalled out tonight
« Reply #19 on: August 14, 2004, 10:37:49 AM »
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Ummm I gloated a bit about rooks not having DAR
because 1/2 the time knights have no DAR.

But after considering it a bit.....

They should let yall have the 163 for HQ defence no matter how
skewed the numbers are. Maybe not the 262, its got to long a range and its used for more than HQ defence.
But you SHOULD be able to mount a HQ defence.

I bet HTC will change this as they said they were reviewing
it after a few days....     :cool:


Still what amazes me... why does a 30 plane advantage compared to ONE country mean a limiting of rides?  Why doesn't the equation compare to the COMBINED strength of the other TWO countries?  

The whole reason for a 3 country model is to make up for uneven numbers distribution.  Just because the two countries that are smaller in number haven't figured it out and work more towards the one larger country until numbers even a bit is no reason to change the game play model.  Use the system as it was intended rather than hollering to get it changed.

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Re: Re: Re: ROOK RJO stalled out tonight
« Reply #20 on: August 14, 2004, 10:48:53 AM »
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Still what amazes me... why does a 30 plane advantage compared to ONE country mean a limiting of rides?  Why doesn't the equation compare to the COMBINED strength of the other TWO countries?  

The whole reason for a 3 country model is to make up for uneven numbers distribution.  Just because the two countries that are smaller in number haven't figured it out and work more towards the one larger country until numbers even a bit is no reason to change the game play model.  Use the system as it was intended rather than hollering to get it changed.


If there is a way to base the limits on how many flyers are over the enemy territory that would be a better way to implement limits
if the numbers are skewed but 2 countries are ganging one it would stand to reason that more red dots of both countries would be in enemy airspace.
that shouldnt be hard to determine in this HiTech game...

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« Reply #21 on: August 14, 2004, 11:12:48 AM »
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If there is a way to base the limits on how many flyers are over the enemy territory that would be a better way to implement limits
if the numbers are skewed but 2 countries are ganging one it would stand to reason that more red dots of both countries would be in enemy airspace.
that shouldnt be hard to determine in this HiTech game...


Lee.. the three country model was designed so two countries WOULD gang one country.  Obviously the hope is the two smaller countries gang the one larger country.

With the arena reset and perk issue.... that was supposed to be the tie breaker.  Two countries are ganging one country.. and it is almost reset time... suddenly those two countries have to consider if not actually start fighting each other... because in the end... only ONE can win the reset.  That tie breaker is supposed to provide a bit of relief to the ganged upon country.  

Why suddenly this doesn't work.... or is perceived to not work.... and we have this abortion of a "fix" put into the mix is beyond me.

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« Reply #22 on: August 14, 2004, 11:23:48 AM »
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G10 with gondalas weps up to 20k in about about 7 mins if I recall.


In a hard climb, maybe, but it won't cover enough ground in that time to intercept a diving B-17.

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« Reply #23 on: August 14, 2004, 12:07:18 PM »
True, it's just an example. Point is, with the superior rook teamwork I've read so much about, I find it suprising they cant defend hq with anything less than rockets or jets.

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« Reply #24 on: August 14, 2004, 12:30:36 PM »
"Also, collision is now an offensive weapon again. I can be rammed successfully by a defender who has no shooting skills but can end my flight before arriving at target. At least make it so that two planes who collide both die. A squaddie got rammed and lost a wing but the rammer flew on with no apparent damage."

So this new deal affects the collision model?

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« Reply #25 on: August 14, 2004, 12:34:06 PM »
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True, it's just an example. Point is, with the superior rook teamwork I've read so much about, I find it suprising they cant defend hq with anything less than rockets or jets.


Believe it... the nature of the arena is not to climb to nose bleed altitude and wait for something to arrive.  It is climb, find fight, fight.  It is the climb issue that the jets support better than the prop planes.

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« Reply #26 on: August 14, 2004, 12:36:24 PM »
Oh no, waaaaaa, I'm crying so hard, waaaaaaa, I'm blubbering, waaaaaa, waaaaaa. :rolleyes:

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« Reply #27 on: August 14, 2004, 12:55:32 PM »
I thought it'd go something like this -

Rook 1 - 2 buff boxes ib hq, 25k
Rooks 2 to 10 - position plz?
Rook 1 - NE, 2 sectors out
Rooks 2 to 10 - cc thx .move (HQ base)
Rooks 2 to 10 - damn, no 163s, nevermind still got time, couple up 109s to intercept harass and report postion, rest up (insert plane of choice) to vector in and destroy!

10 mins later

Rooks 2 to 10 - all buffs dead, hq saved!
Rooks country channel - hurrah!

Instead it seems to be like this -

Rook 1 - 2 buff boxes ib hq, 25k
Rooks 2 to 10 - position plz?
Rook 1 - NE, 2 sectors out
Rooks 2 to 10 - cc thx .move (HQ base)
Rooks 2 to 10 - damn, no 163s, damn you HTC, damn you nit/bish whiners! We're doomed I tells ya, all doooomed!

1 minute later, HTC bbs

You all suck! I hate you all! I'm leaving! (sniffle)

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« Reply #28 on: August 14, 2004, 02:20:09 PM »
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1 minute later, HTC bbs

You all suck! I hate you all! I'm leaving! (sniffle)


You must have read a different post than what is in this thread.

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« Reply #29 on: August 14, 2004, 05:18:47 PM »
Hehe yeah sorry about that, I got carried away by my own bile.