ENY disablements

[phookat]

Originally posted by 4510
But I still can't get past the first issue.... I don't think the fix is needed.

OK, so we don't need it.  Is it problem for you for any other reason?  If so, why?  If not, then who cares?

[4510]

Originally posted by AKcurly
Dunno.  The AKs switched to Rooks for a week or two until it became evident the numbers problem had been solved.

Kudos.. I was a Rook then....



Didn't notice your country of origin.  If you fly prime time USA, then the rooks had numbers every night prior to the latest patch.  

But Curly... did the Rooks outnumber the COMBINED strength of Bish / Knits.  They didn't... and as a result were pinned on their main island most of the week.  The three country model (the smaller countries adjusting how much they fight between each other to counter the larger country) worked like a charm.  However fliers in the smaller countries have to know how to do that.... and of course be willing to do so.

[4510]

Originally posted by bj229r
one problem that NONE of this will fix--a mentality issue...WHEN was last time a county OTHER than the SE lost the small pac map?...there are a few similar things i cant think of right now...but the thing is, often (more often than not, it would seem) 2 countries gang up on the third, and no amount of plane meddling will solve situation---its human nature to go after the easiest target. (that being said, I cant beLIEVE anyone is complaining about a scenario that limits 'dweeb' rides)

Because people have the right to fly dweeb rides if they want to.  

If the limit was arena wide  (read rolling plane set... beginning of camp only early war rides available... other rides phased in over the length of the camp) then it wouldn't be such an issue (IMHO) but to offer changing countries as the only way to fly what you want.  Boo Hiss !

[4510]

Originally posted by Murdr
Ha, still not accepting the fact that you are not the BB moderater, and every word typed by others doesnt have to meet your standards.  Fine, keep sticking your fingers in your ears then.

I'm not sure he acted as a moderator... otherwise he would have locked you from the thread or deleted your posts.  I thought he was after some intelligent exchange of ideas.... so far I don't think he has achieved his primary purpose....

Of course I could be wrong... I've only read about 50 of your posts......

[4510]

Originally posted by KaK3MAW
Subtract 20 perks in evry category to anyone who jumps countries and that country wins reset within 24 hours.
I feel this game should make changes that enhances country loyaltiesand  and not dicourage it.
KaK3MAW

KAK... will you go the hell away..... I keep finding I agree with your posts and it is bothering me terribly !

[Murdr]

Originally posted by 4510
He needs to change the equation entirely.  It isn't Country A having more than the next most numerous country.... it should be Country A having more than the combined numbers of country B and C kicks in the equation.  If you are going to FORCE something to work... FORCE the game model you built to work...the three country model.  If you use the current equation you don't even NEED three countries.  

Just so you know its
ENYdiable = (YourCountry% - (SmallestCountry% + NoFactor%) ) * ENYScale
Hence if country A & B are above NoFactor% both have the peanalty.

[4510]

Originally posted by DoKGonZo
Yeah ... I don't know why squads aren't moving like they used to.

Maybe all that was "needed" was a command which allowed a squadron leader to move his squad and all his pilots with one action. It'd need some kind of failsafe - like launching a nuke - have 2 other squad members online at the time to "approve" the move.

But rounding up 20 or 40 guys to move or set up a squad is a pain.

DOK... A GREAT IDEA... and I wager a lot easier to implement than the current ABORTION... (cough) I mean idea that has been implemented.

See this is the very thing that emails to the customer base could have provided the Gestapo .. (cough)... damn this direct thought keyboard of mine keeps typing exactly what I am thinking instead of what I MEAN to say... where was I ... yeah... the Gestap... (oops.. I'm changing keyboards.. wait one)

Ok.. lets try it again....

HT could have dropped emails in everyone's box...and gotten a lot of great idea.... whittled them down to handful and dropped them back out again .... finally coming up with a consensus....

Again.. GREAT Idea....

[4510]

Originally posted by phookat
OK, so we don't need it.  Is it problem for you for any other reason?  If so, why?  If not, then who cares?

Well you know Phoo... I haven't flown since it was implemented...
I fly the German plane set... and move up and down that plane set.  I prefer the upper end of it naturally... but that has more to do with the speed of the aircraft being able to extricate me from a situation my poor judgement and horrendous gunnery get me into.  I doubt the ME110-C4 or G2 will ever ENY off the table....

However... I have major gas because I don't believe the fix is needed.  I don't think the attitude of "your silly loyalty to a country is rediculous" and "so what if you leave your friends you will make friends" etc. is correct.  This isn't about a plane.... it is about all the other things that are affected if one decides to move for a plane.  It is about the game play design that AH was built on... and now... we are being told... ignore those things if you want to fly a certain plane.  

Also if you we are going to adjust things ofr the "betterment" of the community....then reach out to the community and get consensus and move forward.  Don't talk/listen to a small number... then slam down a change and tell everyone else to suck it up.  That isn't "community" that is dictatorship.


So that is how it looks to me on this end of Whosville.  Which end of Whosville do you live on?

[4510]

Originally posted by Murdr
Just so you know its
ENYdiable = (YourCountry% - (SmallestCountry% + NoFactor%) ) * ENYScale
Hence if country A & B are above NoFactor% both have the peanalty.

Damn Murdr... this is your best post yet... I like it when you are more rational in your posts.  You go dude!

So even if my first equation was off... it shouldn't be about individual countries.. per my first post.  FORCE the three country model to work.

Also.. for this to work... does each country have viz on each other countries status?  I mean... here I am in Rookland and they tell me I can't fly my favorite ride  Bf109E... do I know which other country has it or do I just move and go....

Oh GREAT....I'm in another country (FOR TWELVE HOURS) that can't fly a Bf109E either....

[Murdr]

Originally posted by 4510
I thought he was after some intelligent exchange of ideas.... so far I don't think he has achieved his primary purpose....

Well intelligent exchanges ususlly dont start with "You might be a dweeb because you didn't read the question."  If he had just said that I didnt address the Attack plane component of the question without the attitude, I would have replied that I my implication was that there were other attack capable rides in the enabled planes.

[Morpheus]

I dont understand what the big deal is really.

Honestly if you have more players than another country and you can't fly the plane you want, switch sides to the country with the lesser players and go fly it.

This way you can meet new players who play AH and get to see another side of AH.

Also, if you decide that switching isn't your thing and you dont want to log off because you can't fly your 51, or La7 or what have you, you can devote some of your time towards flying a new plane that you have over looked in the past.

There are many great planes in the game that are just as fun to fly as are the 51s and La7s and Niks.

Just learn how they like to be flown and fly em.

[phookat]

Originally posted by 4510
Well you know Phoo... I haven't flown since it was implemented...

I see.  Maybe you should take a break from the BBS and fly for a while.  You might like it.

Originally posted by 4510
I don't think the attitude of "your silly loyalty to a country is rediculous" and "so what if you leave your friends you will make friends" etc. is correct.  This isn't about a plane.... it is about all the other things that are affected if one decides to move for a plane.  It is about the game play design that AH was built on... and now... we are being told... ignore those things if you want to fly a certain plane.

Your feelings for your chess piece are solely your own.  HTC did not tell you to have them.  But if you have such feelings, the answer is simple.  Stick with your country, through thick and thin.  When you have numbers, you won't get all the best planes.  So fly a lesser plane.

If you don't have such feelings and want to fly another plane, switch countries and help even the numbers.

It's really pretty straightforward.

[Murdr]

Originally posted by 4510
Damn Murdr... this is your best post yet...

I think you're exagerating a little.  I tend to joke and use sarcasm, especially with old friends.  If I get snippy it was precipitated by someones attitude.

I doubt you read my conservitive balancer proposal if that is your impression.  There are components like threshold percentage to reach before the peanalty kicks in, that ended up in HTs proposal the following week.

[NoBaddy]

Originally posted by 4510
[Well I thought the three country model had kicked in nicely prior to this fix.  All last week ( I haven't flown since Thursday.. but did all week) the Rooks were PINNED on the main island Weds and Thursday.  Then we implement a fix for something that apparently isn't broken....

Soup...

I can't speak for the last week because I was on vacation for most of it. But, I can speak for the last 4 or 5 months. In that time, things went from RJO's on Sunday nights to most of the weekends being that way. In the last month or so, it was becoming almost a nightly occurance.

Originally posted by 4510

So I am amused that HT claims success for something that was fixing itself.

...and I find it amusing that you take the statements containing "reserving judgement" and "seems satisfied" to be the same as "HT claims success". Perhaps your reading what you want to see instead of what I wrote.

Originally posted by 4510

Also on this numbers issue.  HT claims frustration... can't fix the problem.  Exclude the BBS .... where has he reached out to the community and explained...."We have a numbers problem.... and as a community to ensure a great gaming experience... I need some help in fixing this.  I would like some volunteer squads to move to help balance numbers... etc."  Anyone get an email like that?  Anyone get presented with the problem, and a community approach?  Again don't use the BBS many folks don't come here regularly.  I would suggest no.  We got a "FIX" jammed down our throats and told to live with it.

Nope, I didn't get an email. Nope, I don't want to get an email. I get enough spam from other game companies...thankfully, HTC isn't one of them. Your email suggestion is impractial from a number of standpoints...not the least being no one wants more spam.

Originally posted by 4510

As for not being excited by your suggestion.  Doesn't surprise me.  HT does some great things, but customer / human  relations is not one of his better skills.  If it didn't come from HT it is already painted with the broadbrush of irrelevance.

Soup, where did you find this axe you seem to feel the need to grind? Please, find me a gaming company that does it better than HTC. You might find one, but, I doubt more than that. Someone does have make decisions on how the game works and from my experience, one person is a hellova lot better than a commitee.

Originally posted by 4510

He needs to change the equation entirely.  It isn't Country A having more than the next most numerous country.... it should be Country A having more than the combined numbers of country B and C kicks in the equation.  If you are going to FORCE something to work... FORCE the game model you built to work...the three country model.  If you use the current equation you don't even NEED three countries.  

I agree the 3 country model wasn't working. HT asked on the BBS what people felt would be the best way to try and address the issue. He, then, took one of the ideas presented there and attempted to deal with the issue (which is something the AH community refused to do). So, how is this bad customer service, how is this "forcing" a fix down your throat? Soup...put down the axe and back away .

[Murdr]

Originally posted by 4510

As for not being excited by your suggestion.  Doesn't surprise me.  HT does some great things, but customer / human  relations is not one of his better skills.  If it didn't come from HT it is already painted with the broadbrush of irrelevance.
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I dont know about all that.  When I came here I was told the policy was if its wrong, and you can prove it, it will be fixed. (albeit, that was in regards to planes & FM)  They do use player suggestions, when they feel it is the right thing to do.  

People complained because their favorite map was being run out of the arena to get to the next map in rotation.  They changed it to a a large map a week.  Then people complained about not having small maps.  I posted along with others to make a week of rotated small maps.  They did that.  Then players submitted more MA maps, and it became a rotation cycle that lasted two tours.  People complained about waiting that long for their favorite map/suffering for weeks on disliked maps.  I posted in GPF&R that we have so many maps now why not rotate 1/4 of the maps in a week.  They ended up pairing a small and large map together each week.

Thats just one issue, and look at the effort they made to address player concerns (over and over).  I think they do well responding to issues and accepting suggestions, and you are being a little harsh.

OTOH, I have also lobbied for a manual flap control option, with what I think is a viable, reasonible damage model.  HT was not moved, but I also did not feel slighted or talked down to in any way.  The important thing to me was that he did pipe in on the discussion, and at least reviewed the sugestions.  On such a small matter having a decision maker even interested inticates good customer service to me